I am determined to try 17 one way or another. Tried all the options from the DVD boot menu to try and run the desktop but keep getting stuck at a black screen with flashing cursor and numlock light flashing. I think it is because of my Nvidia GT710 that newer drivers dont work although it works on my i5 with GT710 box. So went to install on the 4th drive on my Dual Pentium box on a seagate 160gb drive with backups on. Resized the backups partition and created a 30gb partition for 17. After about 40 minutes of resizing the backup partition the installer crashed with a fatal error. I pressed tab to see if I could see the text screen and it said not enough space to create partition. I don't get it.