Windows updates on my old laptop kept undoing themselves whenever they were "installed" in 2021 and prior to that, until they completely bricked my laptop and it was stuck in a continuous boot loop. I made it usable with Linux again, no such issues ever again. I agree that Linux is more than ready for a large number of people, all they need is a little push to take a dive inš
I'll add 100% disk usage to your list. It drove me insane. Had to buy an SSD to continue college work. Meanwhile the issue does not happen using Linux.
I think a bit of care in wording may help this statement.
Simply put, this reads as though you are saying that others are claiming issues that never happened. And to put it mildly, that is very dismissive of reality and others experiences.
If you are willing to claim that others experiences "simply don't exist", you will have your work cut out for you supporting that statement with evidence. Aside from trying to 'prove a negative', you would need to falsify all data outside of your own world view.
Much would disagree, citing XP as the solid and stable one.
This is an excellent example of avoiding being dismissive.
I agree with this.
How Zorin OS is marketed does reflect on how it is perceived and it sets expectations.
That being said, however, you completely invalidated strong examples provided by rather reasonable and neutral posts by dismissing it with a hand wave as statements of "I love Linux. Windows is terrible." That is highly misleading.
More of your post attacks the posters than the merit of what is expressed or the ideas.
I've been working in IT infrastructure architecture and support for 30 years, covering desktop OS versions from Windows 3.0 to Windows 11, and server OSs from NT4 through Windows Server 2022. My background includes 15 years in C, C++, C#, COM, ATL, MFC, and embedded design for large corporations alongside modern web design.
I could also compile an extensive list of subjective Windows-related challenges - after all, I was paid to resolve them. But what purpose does that serve? Engaging in endless debates, challenging every individual experience, it doesnāt lead to meaningful outcomes and choosing to avoid conflict isnāt the same as being dismissive.
Feel free to interpret my comments however you wish - but keep in mind that Iām posting on a Linux forum, where many simply donāt want to hear that Zorin isnāt ready for non-tech-savvy users who prioritise productivity. Iāve laid out multiple detailed points highlighting missing core features or simply unsolvable issues and even Linux users here have agreed.
I truly appreciate the help and insights Iāve received on this forum as a whole - itās been invaluable and want to reiterate how thankful I am so many are willing to offer genuine support.
Zorin provides a superb entry point into Linux and offers a fantastic learning experience for Windows 10 users. Iāll continue persevering with it - even though the original OP chose otherwise, which is understandable given their reasoning.
I will be purchasing a new lappy in order to compare performance, I'll be back I'm sure with an update I look forward to Zorin 18.
I will interpret them exactly as you stated them.
Like how you express yourself here.
Your first action is to blame any other member that thinks your statement is over-generalized and inaccurate. You blame them for "not wanting to hear it."
You immediately accuse any dissent of being a bias. That is the definition of "Dismissive."
And this is based on your statement that the 17th iteration of an almost 17 year old operating system is "not ready" despite millions of non tech savvy users.
And by the way, I have been one of the most outspoken sources of critical feedback of Zorin OS for years.
I am quite sure Artyom Zorin has a dartboard in his office with my face on it.
There is no discussing this with you for a "meaningful outcome" when you have made up your mind about blaming any disagreement on a claimed bias. You did not avoid conflict - you promoted it.
Meaningful outcomes are best reached by examining the merit of the ideas; not by making personal attacks on dissenting members.
Instead, support claims with statistics, measurements or reviews.
Do not make up "facts" then attack the posters who disagree with your unsupported or poorly supported claims.
Zorin is one of the most beginner-friendly Linux distributions. Nevertheless, I find that years of experience with Windows don't help you that much and you also have to bring a lot of willingness to learn, otherwise you will quickly become frustrated. If someone is not that tech-savvy and doesn't want to spend hours learning a new operating system, I would advise them to buy a new (or refurbished) computer with Windows 11 rather than switching to Linux.
For those who don't want to give up their old hardware just because win 11 is no longer supported on it or their resources are insufficient and are interested in a new experience and want to get involved in something new. Linux and especially Zorin lite offer a really good alternative. It may even be less of a problem for those who are not so tech-savvy once the system has been set up by a more experienced helper, as they won't even think of tinkering and tweaking the system so much.
Some of the problems that exist with Linux are not due to Linux itself, but depend on other factors, such as the fact that some drivers and programs are only developed for Windows and are therefore not supported (or only much later) or the power management on notebooks is therefore not so optimal.
Gotta agree - new hardware and Linux, any distro take your pick really, just doesn't really go together.. yet.
I'm using an old iMac from 2015 right now with Zorin 17.3... took a good while to get things figured out, backlight going, fan control, and sound.. But didn't give up - you're kind of giving it up without looking into why:
- Indicator.. Are you daul-booting?? If so, that statement makes perfect sense. When I don't explicitly 'shutdown' my dual-boot machines these days, I get all kinds of weird issues -- no WiFi, no sound, no BT, no this, no that..