Gnome 46 is just terrible

That is one more Reason for the Extension Manager. In the Program it only shown Extensions which are compatible with Your used Gnome Version. On the Gnome Extensions Website will all Extensions shown to You. And the Extension Manager offers a Function to check if Your Extensions that You run currently are compatible with a different Gnome Version.

I know, but why break the plugins when they work with each version they release. It does not make any sense and developers need to spend more time to redesign everything for a newer release.

I really understand the hate towards gnome, i really do!

Extensions don't come from Gnome, but devs (users) who realise what Gnome is missing. If Gnome had their way they would block extensions completely. When Gnome issues a new release it also means authors of Extensions have to update their code in order for them to work. The same thing happened with widgets when Plasma moved from 5.27 to 6.0. If it didn't work you were advised to contact the author to rewrite the widget for 6.0.

All this stuff is why I have suggested in the past that Zorin switch desktop environments. Will they do it for 18? Dunno ...

Wanted to come back here and say that if the Zorin Group can manage GNOME okay and get a good look out of it, okay. I'm fine with that. But if it becomes too unwieldy or unmanageable to handle or whatever, then yeah, dump GNOME. Go with a custom flavor of Cinnamon.

Cinnamon is built upon ancient GTK2 which contains so many flaws and has some serious memoey leaks problems that the maintainers won't/can't fix. So that would be a bad choice.
Instead we should look at Cosmic DE or/and KDE.

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Cosmic DE would be very promising.

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Honestly, I had zero complaints with Gnome DE on Zorin (probably the only distro where I'm satisfied with Gnome as it comes). Since those modifications are baked in, I don't see any reason why Gnome needs to be dropped. It already looks quite similar to Windows (if you want it to be) without overwhelming users with options like KDE.

When I first switched from Windows to Zorin, I was amazed that people didn't like Gnome, because I really liked the desktop on Zorin Core which from my understanding was a Gnome desktop. But @Aravisian was quick to let me know all the credit for the desktop went to the Zorin brothers, who he said had put a lot of effort to make the desktop experience user friendly.

I really think @Locklear93 hit home when he mentioned

I just like a desktop that works well for me and requires very minimal amount of setup or fussing, if any, on my part. I don't want to relearn how my desktop works all the time.

I also think @zenzen had an excellent point with:

This just makes Gnome seem like a ragtag crew of unprofessional people with an unstable product, unaware of the industry standard, changing API willy nilly without so much as giving developers proper deprecation warning.

GNOME kinda sucks though ngl

Correct me if i am wrong, GTK2 is indeed very very old but it also comes from gnome as well.

When Cinnamon was introduced, it was based on GTK2 (Actually, to be more accurate: It was built upon Mate D.E.). It no longer is. Current Cinnamon versions are all built on GTK3.

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I disagree that KDE might be overwhelming especially if it is done similar (but not the same) as Zorin:

If it comes with the same or similar setup preinstalled with Zorin, yeah. I was comparing the current heavily-modified Gnome version with stock KDE, which takes a bit of work.

Q4OS uses the same icon as Zorin for it's "Look Switcher" (Appearance in Zorin). What it does is install different Windows themes and a Mac Theme utilising Global Themes without having to go to Settings | Appearance. The other neat item is how apps installed from the Welcome Screen link have a similar feel to a Windows installer. Check the video. I also read on their forum that Q4OS repo could be added to Devuan.

The Problem is that Gnome doesn't have some kind of common ... how can I say that ... Interface for Extensions has. A standarized connecting Point. So, with a new Gnome Version, the Developers of the Extensions have to update their Extension for the new Gnome Version. And that means that an Extension what works on Gnome 45 not simply work on Gnome 46 and can cause Issues. Or a Gnome Extension simply doesn't get an Update. Then You can't use it anymore.

It is so that some Extensions are ready when a new Gnome Version comes but of Course not all. So, this is a Dilemma. And that is the Reason why it is good not to have a new Gnome Version directly when it is released. A couple Weeks waiting can help a lot.

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This is another reason why I can't use POP OS anymore. They have no common sense. It used to be an OS for Windows gamers to switch ti Linux. But the UI is not comfortable or familiar at all.

Windows gamers have a steeper learning curve trying POP OS, then add Gnome 46 philosophy of, no you don't need that, will make the decisions for you. Want to find where we put something? Too bad, we won't tell you.

Where did the dock go? Exactly. Would you like a crumpit to go with your, Gnome owns your life tea? Here you go, that will be 50 dollars please. What? Inflation and tariffs, enjoy!

Zorin OS is far better. Recognizable out of the box, familiar Win7 or Win10 UI. Makes it easy for Windows users to convert. Ready out of the box for use, no hidden fees, no spying, no bs.


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It's the same for Q4OS.

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Pop! OS makes it user friendly, if you install vanilla gnome it is just terrible.

This is not true at all!.

I disagree on that as well, they rely on kernel 6.8 which has alot of issues with nvidia cards, x11 and wayland. I needed to install the pop os kernel to make the system stable. 6.8 is lagging alot on 1 of my systems.

The only thing Zorin is doing correctly is their templates to make the transition easier.

Most distros is a gamers distros; As long you can apt/yum/eopkg/etc. steam. There may be some distros that uses fine tuned kernels specific for gaming to squeeze a few extra FPS. But again who uses their system only for gaming? And what do they trade instead for "gaming kernels" compared to normal kernels?

I would go for KDE any day over Gnome these days, but when I'm testing icons themes I have to boot up VM for testing.