How to uninstall Zorin Connect and Print Settings if doing so via Software doesn't work?

It comes with all the programs Core comes with, which I uninstalled. I consider minimal to be the bare minimum of programs you need, so pretty much just what makes the PC run and then a browser. Programs for opening .zip, graphic editing, etc. aren't minimal - if I need them, I can get them, but I don't want them there by default. I'm very particular with my own devices and had what I considered to be bloatware uninstalled on my Android and Windows (back before I switched) with Powershell if it wasn't available to uninstall otherwise.

I have the hidden files enabled now, of course.

So is .local and .config all I'll need for regular use? Is this essentially what Program Files is on Windows? I was entering the regular Computer directory and there were folders such as 'etc', 'dev', 'proc', 'lib' which are full of folders and got me lost, trying to find what I need.

Truth be told, I don't touch 'root', because it requires a password which logically tells me it gets extra protection so you don't frick up the system. From the stuff I watched before Linux I got the idea that 'boot' is for booting the system and 'root' is essentially the most important stuff, so I shouldn't touch. Now, I get very lost when I install the rare Windows stuff like Battle.net. It insists it's installed in C and it gets put in a safe(?) environment of sorts, but I cannot choose where to install it on Linux, because it insists it's on Windows. I have to launch Battlenet through its installation .exe, because I cannot find the file responsible for its launch which would work. I do it through Steam's Proton, ofc.

Yes, and much more. However, during install, there is an option for Minimal Install with a checkbox. Checking this ON should install none of that, just the browser and Basic packages.

Having experienced the Bloat of Both Windows and Android (GOOGLE), I think we can all relate and understand. Android... Wow... and it won't let you remove much. The cell provider does this, too. They sell you a phone with so-many gigs of storage, then they eat up 90% of that storage allowing you no option to fix it.
However...
It is noteworthy that on Linux, it is nowhere near so bloated. While there may be packages you do not need, so much, they take up much less space. Zorin Core takes up only about 8gigs fully expanded. My copy of Windows 11 gobbled up 40 gigs as it came preinstalled.

Ah... I really prefer to avoid cross comparisons.
Windows and Linux are different in many ways. I would not consider ~/.config to be akin to Program Files... But they have some similarities. Both store user configs for installed software, for example.
Is it all you need for regular use - I have no idea what your regular use is.
It is the location you can access to see your Software Specific Configurations.

/usr/share should fulfill what you need; but that is ROOT so exercise With Caution.
You can use this forum to Check in Advance of actions you wish to take. After performing a few procedures, you will begin to remember them and remember locations and rely on the forum less and less until you are riding on your own.

It would be in the Virtual C: drive placed in the ~/.steam directory.
Wine does this too; there is a Virtual C: Drive in the ~/.wine directory that you can navigate exactly the same way as you could on Windows.

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I distinctly remember reading under some Pro review an user claiming minimal still installs all what Core comes with. I found a mention of this on Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/zorinos/comments/p8vfko/minimal_installation_of_zorin_os_16_pro/ 'The Pro version has an option during the installation to use a minimal installation; this will only install the apps that are installed on Core.' - meaning I'd be back to where I am now, but with everything I uninstalled back.

For me it's not about space, but, as I keep saying, seeing it. It drives me mad.

I did end up finding the folder a while ago, but none of the files in it work. I add them the same way I added the setup, I force-enable proton, I press play, but, unlike setup, they never launch.

Hmmm... I am uncertain on this. I had Zorin OS Ultimate and used the Minimal install - and it was minimal, I can tell you.
Perhaps Zorin OS Pro is different in this. Zorin OS changed from offering the Ultimate Version, to the Pro Version and they made several changes to it. For example, Ultimate came with a bunch of Linux Games - Pro does not (But they are in the repo and can be installed).

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I trust you. The post is from 7 months ago, but I somewhat doubt it's out of date and I cannot find in Google information about what the Pro minimal install entails precisely.

I'm all for devs offering a lot of pre-installed stuff for people who need them, but I use none of them. I'm very much just a gaming and browser user. I don't need OBS, etc (I reckon it's one of stuff pre-installed with regular Pro install). Maybe if I manage to find info about what Minimal has, I'll buy Pro and have all my issues fixed, haha.

Pro is aimed toward the crowd that likes to explore app offerings. To Get something for what they pay. It really is not geared toward the Minimal Install...
It would not be worth it to you to choose Pro, then find it it does not do what you want.

When I first moved over to Linux from Windows... I did very similar. I went into ROOT, too. And removed anything extraneous.
I nuked my build.
A lot.
It bothered me seeing things I do not use.

Then I started making themes and icon sets and found it useful to keep a lot of the stuff I didn't want.
It allowed me to Test my creations rather than awaiting bug reports from users that won't bother to make a report.
In the end, it caused me to get over my attitudes... My hard drive is mostly free space. I do not need to worry about some app I do not use taking up space.
I understand your point as I am much the same way. But I also point out that it is OK to relax a bit. :wink:

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I'll probably grow into that attitude. Do you know if there is a list of Core pre-installed stuff that's safe to uninstall? I think I might need to reinstall my system for Software to work properly. :sweat:

Not handy but... I bet a list could be compiled...

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If my eyes don't fail me, DistroWatch.com: Zorin OS seems to have the list in the table below. The only one I recognize from stuff I've uninstalled is LibreOffice, but, as you saw through the Terminal, I uninstalled far, far more. I went from 2 pages in 'Show Applications' to 2 lines in one page. (with some bulk in Utilities folder, but I only put there stuff which Software doesn't allow to uninstall). I'll reinstall the system right now. If you come up with what's safe to get rid of, I'll appreciate, but I'm aware I stole a lot of your time and will understand if you don't want to waste any more.

That is not a list of all installed, just the general common packages for comparison with other distros.
Once you reinstall Zorin OS, open terminal and run:

sudo apt update && sudo apt upgrade

apt list --installed

Paste the output of apt list --installed using the Gear Icon on the reply window toolbar - Hide Details

Sorry, that was a typo… flatpak uses uninstall whereas apt and snap use remove.

Oh hell no, I see you trying to trick me to ignore the hog. There's still some bloatware.

How to sudo remove the ones circled in red? The ones circled in blue I'd be happy to remove, but not a priority.

Also, how to sudo install non-flatpak Steam? Before re-install I installed it, but it would open Update window on every restart so I think I might had done something wrong, hence why I ask now.


Huh?

I use

sudo apt install steam

It may be due to me already removing both snap and flatpak

sudo apt remove --purge snapd flatpak

I see you include the Gnome-date-time app(gnome-clocks). This cannot be removed, it is part of timedatectrl. This application handles how to keep up with date and time, which is necessary for Updater, etc.
You can however, remove the visibility of unwanted apps by removing their .desktop files from /usr/share/applications.

You have "Main Menu" listed- this should not be removed. It is how you edit the app menu. This package name is menulibre - remove at your own risk.
Firewall Configuration (package gufw) should not be removed. Remove at your own risk.
See above about removing desktop files.

sudo apt remove --purge aisleriot brasero brasero-common gnome-calendar cheese cheese-common evolution gnome-contacts libreoffice* gnome-mahjongg eog pitivi gnome-mines gnome-maps gnome-todo quadrapassel remmina remmina-common gnome-tour gnome-sound-recorder totem gnome-sudoku gnome-weather

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I thought the Hide would just hide instead of removing what bothers me. I'll trust you with what shouldn't be removed. Aren't the Zorin themes flatpak? Do they not need the flatpak thing to run? Anyway, I ran both 'sudo apt remove --purge snapd flatpak' and 'sudo apt remove --purge aisleriot brasero brasero-common gnome-calendar cheese cheese-common evolution gnome-contacts libreoffice* gnome-mahjongg eog pitivi gnome-mines gnome-maps gnome-todo quadrapassel remmina remmina-common gnome-tour gnome-sound-recorder totem gnome-sudoku gnome-weather'. If something is necessary then I'll just try to not look at it.

After this, I'm now missing settings and if I try to open them from the taskbar, I get "Execution of gnome-control-center failed". It's even worse than it was. :joy:

No, just versions of the themes for Flatpak are included.
They can be safely removed if you are not using Flatpak.
If you are using flatpak, then you can keep them.

sudo apt install gnome-control-center

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Bless you! I don't think all of the ones from the big command uninstalled. I see some of the games still in, but I've seen their names in the big command.


Can they be somehow nuked? I want to keep Gimp. If any of these isn't needed and can be safely installed, I'd like that.

I'm also stuck with Wine System Tray which I'm unable to quit and it looks unlike it used to:
Screenshot from 2022-04-03 15-48-56
Any idea what killed it?

Try uninstalling any games as normal from Gnome-Software. All Games are safe to remove.

Have you rebooted?

You can remove the desktop file for anything int he app menu you no longer wish to see. You can still launch those apps, if needed, with alt+F2 and then type in the application name. For example,

menulibre

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Just rebooted, Software Installed is back to being blank. :joy:

I have no idea what is causing that on a Fresh New Install... You did reinstall gnome-control-center, yes?

One thing: In terminal, when you remove a package, it tells you what it is removing with it.
Be sure to check what it will remove for anything that shouldn't go.
I made a thread sometime back about some innocuous package I went to install, only to note that it wanted to remove the entire Zorin Desktop, with it.

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I did. Whenever it asks me to Y/n it mentions above if I want to remove anything extra (or so I understand it) and I don't, so I ignore it since it tells me to write down an extra command if I wish to.

2022-04-03 15:09:21 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:09:21 remove zorin-connect:all 1.2.2
2022-04-03 15:09:22 remove gnome-shell-extension-zorin-connect-browsers:all 53
2022-04-03 15:09:22 remove gnome-shell-extension-zorin-connect:all 53
2022-04-03 15:23:34 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:23:34 remove chromium-codecs-ffmpeg-extra:amd64 1:85.0.4183.83-0ubuntu0.20.04.2
2022-04-03 15:23:34 remove gir1.2-folks-0.6:amd64 0.13.2-1
2022-04-03 15:23:35 remove gir1.2-ebookcontacts-1.2:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:23:36 remove gir1.2-edataserver-1.2:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:23:36 remove gir1.2-camel-1.2:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:23:37 remove gir1.2-gdata-0.0:amd64 0.17.12-1
2022-04-03 15:23:37 remove gir1.2-gee-0.8:amd64 0.20.3-1
2022-04-03 15:23:38 remove gstreamer1.0-vaapi:amd64 1.16.2-2
2022-04-03 15:23:38 remove heif-gdk-pixbuf:amd64 1.6.1-1build1
2022-04-03 15:23:38 remove libfwupdplugin1:amd64 1.5.11-0ubuntu1~20.04.2
2022-04-03 15:23:39 remove libva-wayland2:amd64 2.7.0-2
2022-04-03 15:23:39 remove sshfs:amd64 3.6.0+repack+really2.10-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:35:12 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:35:13 remove gnome-software-plugin-flatpak:amd64 3.36.1-0ubuntu0.20.04.0+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:35:13 remove flatpak:amd64 1.12.4-1flatpak1~20.04
2022-04-03 15:35:19 remove gnome-software-plugin-snap:amd64 3.36.1-0ubuntu0.20.04.0+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:35:21 remove snapd:amd64 2.54.3+20.04.1ubuntu0.2
2022-04-03 15:36:47 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:36:47 remove aisleriot:amd64 1:3.22.9-1
2022-04-03 15:36:49 remove brasero:amd64 3.12.2-6ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:49 remove brasero-cdrkit:amd64 3.12.2-6ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:50 remove nautilus-extension-brasero:amd64 3.12.2-6ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:50 remove libbrasero-media3-1:amd64 3.12.2-6ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:51 remove brasero-common:all 3.12.2-6ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:52 remove cheese:amd64 3.34.0-1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:53 remove zorin-os-desktop:amd64 1.5.12
2022-04-03 15:36:54 remove gnome-control-center:amd64 1:3.38.6-0ubuntu1+zorin3
2022-04-03 15:36:55 remove gnome-contacts:amd64 3.36.1-1
2022-04-03 15:36:55 remove libcheese-gtk25:amd64 3.34.0-1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:56 remove libcheese8:amd64 3.34.0-1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:56 remove cheese-common:all 3.34.0-1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:57 remove eog:amd64 3.36.3-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:58 remove evolution-plugin-bogofilter:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:58 remove evolution-plugins:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:36:59 remove evolution-ews:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1.1
2022-04-03 15:37:02 remove evolution-plugin-pstimport:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:37:03 remove gnome-calendar:amd64 3.38.2-1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:37:03 remove gnome-mahjongg:amd64 1:3.36.1-1
2022-04-03 15:37:04 remove gnome-maps:amd64 3.38.2-zorin1
2022-04-03 15:37:05 remove gnome-mines:amd64 1:3.36.0-1
2022-04-03 15:37:05 remove libreoffice-writer:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:06 remove libreoffice-calc:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:06 remove libreoffice-base-core:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:07 remove python3-uno:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:07 remove libreoffice-impress:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:08 remove libreoffice-help-en-us:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:10 remove libreoffice-help-common:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:11 remove libreoffice-draw:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:11 remove libreoffice-gnome:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:11 remove libreoffice-gtk3:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:12 remove libreoffice-style-elementary:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:12 remove libreoffice-style-yaru:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:13 remove pitivi:amd64 0.999-2+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:37:14 remove evolution:amd64 3.36.5-0ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:37:14 remove libreoffice-core:amd64 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:14 remove libreoffice-common:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:37:19 remove libreoffice-style-colibre:all 1:7.3.1~rc3-0ubuntu0.20.04.1~lo1
2022-04-03 15:44:13 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:44:13 remove quadrapassel:amd64 1:3.36.0-1
2022-04-03 15:44:22 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:44:22 remove remmina-plugin-vnc:amd64 1.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:44:23 remove remmina-plugin-secret:amd64 1.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:44:24 remove remmina-plugin-rdp:amd64 1.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:44:24 remove remmina:amd64 1.4.2+dfsg-1ubuntu1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:58:51 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:58:51 remove gnome-sudoku:amd64 1:3.36.0-1
2022-04-03 15:58:53 remove libqqwing2v5:amd64 1.3.4-1.1build1
2022-04-03 15:59:03 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:59:03 remove rhythmbox-plugins:amd64 3.4.4-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:03 remove gir1.2-rb-3.0:amd64 3.4.4-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:04 remove libgpod-common:amd64 0.8.3-15
2022-04-03 15:59:04 remove libgpod4:amd64 0.8.3-15
2022-04-03 15:59:05 remove liblirc-client0:amd64 0.10.1-6.1ubuntu1.1
2022-04-03 15:59:05 remove rhythmbox-plugin-alternative-toolbar:all 0.19.3-1.1
2022-04-03 15:59:06 remove rhythmbox:amd64 3.4.4-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:07 remove librhythmbox-core10:amd64 3.4.4-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:08 remove libsgutils2-2:amd64 1.44-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:08 remove media-player-info:all 24-2
2022-04-03 15:59:09 remove python3-mako:all 1.1.0+ds1-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:09 remove python3-markupsafe:amd64 1.1.0-1build2
2022-04-03 15:59:10 remove rhythmbox-data:all 3.4.4-1ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:19 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:59:19 remove seahorse:amd64 3.36-1
2022-04-03 15:59:20 remove libhandy-0.0-0:amd64 0.0.13-1
2022-04-03 15:59:28 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:59:28 remove gnome-sound-recorder:all 3.38.0-1+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:59:29 remove gir1.2-gst-plugins-bad-1.0:amd64 1.16.2-2.1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:59:29 remove gir1.2-handy-1:amd64 1.1.90-2+zorin1
2022-04-03 15:59:35 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:59:35 remove gnome-todo:amd64 3.28.1-5
2022-04-03 15:59:36 remove gnome-todo-common:all 3.28.1-5
2022-04-03 15:59:36 remove libgnome-todo:amd64 3.28.1-5
2022-04-03 15:59:47 startup packages remove
2022-04-03 15:59:47 remove totem-plugins:amd64 3.34.1-2ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:48 remove gir1.2-totem-1.0:amd64 3.34.1-2ubuntu2
2022-04-03 15:59:48 remove gir1.2-totemplparser-1.0:amd64 3.26.5-1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:59:49 remove gstreamer1.0-plugins-bad:amd64 1.16.2-2.1ubuntu1
2022-04-03 15:59:49 remove libdc1394-22:amd64 2.2.5-2.1
2022-04-03 15:59:50 remove libdca0:amd64 0.0.6-1
2022-04-03 15:59:51 remove libfaad2:amd64 2.9.1-1
2022-04-03 15:59:51 remove libfluidsynth2:amd64 2.1.1-2
2022-04-03 15:59:52 remove libnice10:amd64 0.1.16-1
2022-04-03 15:59:52 remove libgupnp-igd-1.0-4:amd64 0.2.5-5
2022-04-03 15:59:53 remove libinstpatch-1.0-2:amd64 1.1.2-2build1
2022-04-03 15:59:54 remove libkate1:amd64 0.4.1-11build1
2022-04-03 15:59:54 remove libmplex2-2.1-0:amd64 1:2.1.0+debian-6build1
2022-04-03 15:59:55 remove libmpeg2encpp-2.1-0:amd64 1:2.1.0+debian-6build1
2022-04-03 15:59:55 remove libmjpegutils-2.1-0:amd64 1:2.1.0+debian-6build1
2022-04-03 15:59:55 remove libmms0:amd64 0.6.4-3
2022-04-03 15:59:56 remove libmodplug1:amd64 1:0.8.9.0-2build1
2022-04-03 15:59:56 remove libmpcdec6:amd64 2:0.1~r495-2
2022-04-03 15:59:57 remove libofa0:amd64 0.9.3-21
2022-04-03 15:59:58 remove libopenal1:amd64 1:1.19.1-1
2022-04-03 15:59:58 remove libopenal-data:all 1:1.19.1-1
2022-04-03 15:59:58 remove libsndio7.0:amd64 1.5.0-3
2022-04-03 15:59:59 remove libsoundtouch1:amd64 2.1.2+ds1-1build1
2022-04-03 16:00:00 remove libspandsp2:amd64 0.0.6+dfsg-2
2022-04-03 16:00:00 remove libsrt1:amd64 1.4.0-1build1
2022-04-03 16:00:01 remove libsrtp2-1:amd64 2.3.0-2
2022-04-03 16:00:02 remove totem:amd64 3.34.1-2ubuntu2
2022-04-03 16:00:02 remove libtotem0:amd64 3.34.1-2ubuntu2
2022-04-03 16:00:03 remove libusrsctp1:amd64 0.9.3.0+20190901-1
2022-04-03 16:00:03 remove libvo-aacenc0:amd64 0.1.3-2
2022-04-03 16:00:04 remove libvo-amrwbenc0:amd64 0.1.3-2
2022-04-03 16:00:04 remove libwildmidi2:amd64 0.4.3-1
2022-04-03 16:00:05 remove libzbar0:amd64 0.23-1.3
2022-04-03 16:00:05 remove timgm6mb-soundfont:all 1.3-3
2022-04-03 16:00:08 remove totem-common:all 3.34.1-2ubuntu2

Here's the logs from 'grep "remove" /var/log/dpkg.log'.

I noticed those:

2022-04-03 15:36:53 remove zorin-os-desktop:amd64 1.5.12
2022-04-03 15:36:54 remove gnome-control-center:amd64 1:3.38.6-0ubuntu1+zorin3

I'm not well wersed enough for any other to raise my suspicion. We already reinstalled gnome-control-center (albeit I've no idea why it got nuked). Should I also reinstall desktop? Nothing is not-not working, from what I see.

Edit: copied console result for better readibility.
Edit2: I used sudo apt install zorin-os-desktop and I'm letting it do its thing.