Your darn tootin right there buddy! Which is why I say Gnome has got their screws loose, should have put some loctite on the threads. lol
Linux in general is supposed to be about freedom of choice. It is really sad to see a developer going against that. Hopefully Gnome wakes up to their actions one day and sees that.
I think Microsoft has been working in the shadows when it comes to Gnome, it just feels like their influence all over.
No, they’ve just been writing **** poor code for the USB driver support - so bad that a German kernel developer was heard to say that their code was s**t in English and not the German equivalent … then you know things are bad!
Well I managed to crash KDE (It shows up as Plasma in the ‘gear’ options) last night after installing some new wallpapers or rather applying one to second monitor - did a search for how to recover a crash in KDE on LinuxQuestions.org - sorted it by logging into Zorin Desktop and then deleting ‘.kde’ folder in /home and back in business:
If you give Plasma a try as a DE on Zorin and you added a widget to the panel that you no longer want or added a duplicate in error, follow this very useful guide:
https://www.lostsaloon.com/technology/kde-plasma-5-how-to-add-and-remove-a-widget-from-panel-in-kde/
I like the transparency! 
Also, that jet needs to stop screwing around, straighten up and fly right. 
For those who are interested, KDE 5.20 is due out in October - very good article here:
Has anyone heard from @Swarfendor437? I'm wondering how the plasma DE has been working out long term, if he's come across any issues.
@jgordon, you did it as well, correct? How'd it work out, you still using it?
This does sound like something I'd be interested in trying.
But more so, to find out how Swarfendor437 is doing...
Call it a checking up on him...
@JeffK969 If you edit your post and add @ in front of Swarfendor437 ( i.e. @swarfendor437 ) then he will be alerted if and when he comes on here for a nostalgic visit to his old hunting ground. 
Thanks.. that I did not know... I don't know a lot about the forum...lol
Thank You Very Much Zabadadadoo....
I am also interested in KDE, but atm I am happy with Z16 pro and Gnome.
KDE is lighter and more customizable. And atm I dont feel like I want break my system, haha
I hear ya.. Saturday I spent 6, 6 1/2 hours playing with KDE on my zorin install.
Other than the annoying keyboard popping up on every boot, the panel squishing to the right upon restart and issues with some themes, latte dock, I enjoyed it...lol
I ended up doing a fresh re-install (just not to take the chance of issues down the road). My main issues were trying to get it to be more like my pc with Feren,
without having the knowledge. Much credit to the Feren Dev for the work he put into his version, works extremely well. But I did learned some stuff and may try it again. But for now, just going to enjoy Zorin straight.
The KDE install was easy and only took 5 minutes maybe?
Install is easy, setup is hard 
Hi JeffK969,
Firstly KDE Plasma has been working fine for me ... on Devuan 3.1.1! My SteamPunkeD theme below:
[Footnote: I did have KDE running fine on Zorin 15 as shown in earlier posts - not longer afterward I accidentally erased my Zorin install losing everything and no way was it coming back due to mismatch on partition parameters despite extensive trys - heyho! 
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Huh. I wonder...
Zorin did indeed do terrific work in making Gnome look good, easy to use and flexible. Zorin OS and Ubuntu Mate have both done terrific work in offering layout switchers. But as everyone is always praising KDE for being the most flexible and theme-able, then I wonder why it seems that most user-centric distributions seem to focus on GTK based desktop environments?
I have often wondered if the praises are mere repeats. Someone says it, so others pick it up and repeat it; when they have no idea...
KDE desktop has lots of settings. To the point of being a little overwheleming. But is it really customizable and themable?
I Do Not Think So.
It is tightly locked in. You can twiddle some knobs, but you cannot roll up your sleeves and change the code anywhere near the way you can in gtk. OR at least... as much as you can in gtk 2 and 3. gtk4 is a whole nother animal of Non-Theme no customization allowed...
In addition; KDE customizationa nd themes are scattered all over the place. It's maddening just trying to find the thing you want to change. In gtk it is in ... get this... Themes. Or ... Icons.
Not so with KDE; it could be anywhere. Before you can change it, you must turn over all the rocks and find it. Assuming you have access to it at all.
