New to Zorin OS and not impressed

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#26

I find this hilarious. Are people so impatient that 2 minutes is an eternity. If you want faster you should go beyond upgrades and get a machine with at least 4-6 core processor, 12+ gb ram and nvme storage. Complaining about and attempting to improve an old computer's boot time, which is limited by the hardware not the os, is counterproductive. I remember waiting 3 to 5 minutes for windows to boot (95c and 98). 2000 and xp improved upon that somewhat, but boot times have come a long way.

Zorin 16, after boot, is still the fastest Ubuntu based distro available today. If you want to speed it up further, drop gnome and move to Cinnamon DE or better yet for your hardware, install XFCE and enjoy lite before it's released... only thing missing is the Zorin official layouts. You can get either here on the forum from the Tutorials & Guides category:

https://forum.zorin.com/t/top-x-1-things-to-do-after-installing-zorin-os-16/5938/24

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#27

It maybe over simplistic, but boot time is the first impression that many have of an OS. Perhaps that's why MS have worked to improve the boot time of Win 11.

I obviously care about it because I watched the two boot videos above with anticipation. In my book, 2 minutes is way too long anyway but would agree a few seconds difference in a comparison in neither here nor there.

What is good about Linux are the updates and that is more important. For one thing, they are under my control. But for another, the waiting around while Windows reboots and updates again is a killer.

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#28

I literally watched a LIVE video from LTT, where Anthony was trying to benchmark a computer, when Windows 10 suddenly decided to start downloading updates. You see, Windows don't respect you or anything you do, it does what it wants you to do.

And if you try and force auto updates to disable, well that timeframe only lasts a maximum of a week. So that means, a week later, that system is going to update, and wipe out any settings changes you did, including, turning off the telemetry.

Windows11 is going to be far worse for those who get it this month. I'll pray for them, but I think Windows is gonna put them over the edge.

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#29

To add, my father bought himself a laptop because he said he wanted to do email. He wasn't computer literate.

Whenever he turned it on, which was about once a week or month, it would go into a 20 minute update and reboot cycle. That is all he ever saw of Windows and gave it up. I don't blame him.

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#30

OK, I'm back on the AO722.
I installed Chrome in the meantime. too. It's working, just a bit slow, anyway better than Firefox, and I got all my bookmarks, etc. back working too! That helps quite a bit.

Regarding the CPU-Power adjustment, I'll need a bit of time with that and even learn the How-Too! It looks quite complicated because I really never used Github! I installed an app called CPUPower-Gui but is locked to max 1GHz only, as the BIOS of the AO722 predicts. Even the BIOS of this Netbook is unlocked, the CPU is locked to 1GHz! In windows, if the power is set to High Perfornance, the CPU is working up tp 1.333.5MHz!

#31

Keep in mind guys, if you are using Zorin OS Core, that means Gnome desktop. And you don't have to download and install this software from Github. Many of these cool tools can be had from Gnome extensions. Far easier to install!

All you have to do is going to the Gnome extensions website, enable the Gnome extensions browser integration. Then search for the extension you want, and click the toggle to enable. This is why I am always linking to them, cause they are the easiest.

Github is a very confusing site, and even though I have been on it multiple times now, I still think its confusing. I honestly believe that Github wants their site to be confusing, because it is terribly laid out, and have been for a very long time.

If they actually cared, they would hire real website designers to produce a site that is worth a darn, but they don't want to spend the money so, what we get is a site, that looks like it was made by a child genius, who thinks everybody else are geniuses like them.

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#32

Ok, I installed the Gnome Integration Extension already in Chrome. How do I now get those CPU-Power-Manager?

Thanks a lot for an short explanation.

#33

OK, got it to work/installed! But that CPU Power Manager will not work on an AMD, only with Intel CPU!

Any idea how I could get the Turbo Boost on AMD CPU to run?

Thanks for any info.

#34

Play both videos at the same time on the forum and let me know if zorin boots fastests

#35

After boot...And it isn't slow to boot on my machine. I am running a Ryzen 7 w/ 32 GB DDR4 and samsung 970 NVMe drives though....like I said...that's the limitation of that hardware...not the os. Barely 30secs for me. Get new or upgrade....not much else you can do.

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#36

After boot zorin is not slow no, but during boot it is at least for me. I have a i7-7700hq and 32gb of ram. So no i dont think its the hardware. Pop os is ubuntu based and boots much faster here.

#37

Forgive me...got you and your hardware mixed up with quaxth...my mistake. On his hardware he shouldn't be expecting our boot times.

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#38

It is both.

Hardware will be a huge determining factor in boot time. But yes, different O.S.'s do try to optimize boot time. In Zorin OS you can optimize by disabling the unnecessary network wait service

sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service

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#39

Is it really unnecessary? I thought that ran until your hardware drivers were loaded so that it didn't produce an error. I didn't look it up, so am going on logic, not what it actually is programmed for.

#40

No, it is strictly used only by Ubuntu Server, therefor is enabled by default even in Ubuntu Desktop.

#41

I'm still not impressed yet!

That said, I still waiting for the Zorin OS 16 Lite to be released. How long more that will take?
In the Lite version, will be Gnome be changed to a faster one?

I still run the Zorin OS 16 on that Acer AO722, besides the Windows 11 Pro, on a WD Black Scorpio 500GB 7200rpm HDD.

Zorin needs a half minute more for booting as Windows 11 Pro! And even the apps in Windows 11 Pro are faster than as in Zorin. Besides that, I've a problem for to get connected to my Samsung Xpress 480FW color laser printer and its scanner too! That Printer is connected directly to my wired network with fixed IP.

But I just like Zorin and would use it more, if it would be faster, special faster as Windows 10/11!

#42

In order to help increase your load time you may want to try:

sudo systemctl disable NetworkManager-wait-online.service

This service may be unnecessarily holding up your boot.

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#43

Zorin Lite 16 will be XFCE rather than Gnome, I think. And it should be faster.

As an aside, I just got a new PC (my previous one was from 2009). I have dual boot Zorin OS 16 and Win10. Once I select one from the menu I get to a desktop in about 8 seconds (with Windows fastboot disabled).

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#44

I just checked the boot time of the Windows 11 Pro and Zorion OS16

  1. Windows 11 boots in 1m 40s till all Icons are on the screen;
  2. Zorin OS16 boots in 2m 21s until all Icons are on the screen!

That is a difference of 41s between these 2 OSes! Too much!

The working in Windows 11 is also faster than in Zorin OS16, special as it comes to the Internet!

Both OSes run on the same HDD, an WD Black Scorpio 500GB 7200 RPM, and both run on the same size of Partition on that HDD (150GB each).

OK, the Acer Aspire One 722 with its AMD C60 CPU isn't fast! Just as Zotin claims to be faster than Windows, that isn't a fact at all, it's just the opposite!

Again, I'll wait for the availability of Zorin OS16 Lite! That may well change the outcome, let see! Any info available on how long that would take?

Thanks for any answer!

#45

In zorin there might be a service that takes alot of time (mostly a network service). You can run systemd-analyze and upload the results here. After that run systemd-analyze blame and post the results here too.

Or try a distro that has systemd boot ? Zorin uses the older grub for booting. I use Pop! OS 21.04 and its 20 seconds faster for me then zorin os 16 (installed it on the same ssd)

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