It isn't always simple to pull the CMOS battery if you have a laptop. It is more accessible if you have a desktop/tower PC.
That is very true.
Some CMOS is even soldered on m/b for cost saving. Making it impossible to replace unless one would invest into a de-soldering station.
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THAT'S CURSED, IMAGINE YOU NEED TO REPLACE THE BATTERY TO FIX THE ISSUE BUT IT'S SOLDERED ON!!!
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Never mind CMOS, I even saw the eMMC (the only storage) soldered on m/b of cheap laptops to save cost for a proper socket.
In my opinion, those "unrepairable" products should be strictly forbidden by regulatory authorities.
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But sometimes it's just for marketing, manufacturers know that the average user isn't going to care. The machine breaks, they buy a new one. The cheap price also boost sales.
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Yes, and adding yet another e-garbage heap into our landfill.
Aren't we love the capitalism? /s
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Laws are slow to change, but they are moving in the right direction. https://repair.eu/
Hope this stops more "flying toasters" crash landing in waste landfill sites.
Manufacturers will find another way...
@FrenchPress Subject Deviation Warning as from post #62 alarm bells ringing in my ears. Maybe in need of a magic wand moment to split the thread?
It made a certain amount of stirs in France but in reality there are many loopholes.
You said that faster than me 
I really like your fast thinking.
In the effort for reducing e-garbage in a personal level, I got myself a good quality soldering machine and doing a small repair job.
Since I am the only person who knows how to solder in the entire family/relatives, there is always a project waiting for me on the table.
I am kind of proud of myself since my soldering skill is self taught (so as my English, btw).
When I solder something, it's not pretty at all. I pretty much never soldered, only touched it like once.
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You should watch some Youtube videos.
There are tones of instructions.
While I usually prefer texts for the instruction, soldering is something I appreciate motion picture for instruction.
So far, I salvaged several hose hold items which already paid the price of the soldering station.
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Manufactures gived you on first product trustly good working a product with next generation only change design with poor software and take a hyper brand the best product on the world. Then next 3 months you update a firmware and everything stop working and a mouse or a keyboard have a problems what they don't have a before to try told you go to shop and buying new model what we just announced or taken and give your money from a wallet. Better when your warranty is off then your product get a problem with electronics inside like in a laptops. What can you do if service a repair a laptop is expensive?
Really it exist and isn't this psychological business to get a money from people who buyed the near the same products with the same near problems?
A good "solder sucker" tool can get you out of a mess.
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That must be a reply to @Kedric.
I already got a good one of those at hand along with several de-soldering tapes.
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I think we should move this discussion to a new thread.
Now we are talking about soldering.
I think @Aravisian would have something to say for this subject 
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I just did with my moderator magic wand 
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Maybe I will get my own soldering tool when I'm older.
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I have all soldering tools but watch out do not over heating another electronics a components.
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Inexpensive ones start from under 20 Euro.
You can ask it as a Xmas gift?
One ones like I got (with temperature control) are bit more pricey though.