Requesting help re: which kernel to switch to

Should this happen in future, you might enter the grub menu and select the working (in this case, 6.8) kernel to boot from - hopefully to save a headache.

Over-all, I agree with everything you said.
Stability and support are set expectations just as much as announcements are.

Were this an isolated incident in which one particular expectation went unmet, I suspect that we all would be completely on the same page. Sometimes plans don't work out.

What I responded to was @Omnimaxus worry that he may be overreacting or "melodramatic." Not to whether the 6.11 kernel was good for users.
I assured him and maintain my assurance that he is not overreacting given the history of critical announcements that turn to vapor, examples listed above.
It is a valid feeling to have.
And a member being able to express disappointment, feeling let-down or a lack of satisfaction is just as critical as positive and uplifting feedback is.

A member of the forum can be supportive and encouraging of the ZorinGroups efforts, without using wording to be destructive to a member who is not satisfied with a product.

I played around with my KDE environment in Endeavour OS. I am very surprised to see the customization there. For me no more gnome stuff, i hope cosmic get the same love BUT i might stay on KDE.

From my understanding it was used for 24.10

Sorry to hear you had trouble. Next time, try pressing the Shift key at boot to access the recovery menu. You could've navigated to the option to start Zorin with the last working kernel (in your case, that was 6.8). Just FYI.

It was first. But they have bring it to Ubuntu 24 LTS. In the STS Version You have the newer Kernel and these or Parts of it landing as Backports in Ubuntu LTS. As far as I know, the next one what will land in Ubuntu 24 LTS is the 6.14 Kernel if I remember right.

Ubuntu has in this their own ... Model. I find it a bit irritataing from Time to Time, too.

You are correct that it was also like a "plan," but at the same time, they let us down by setting the expectation that 6.11 would come in 17.3. That was in part due to their (apparently) not doing their due diligence before even saying anything to begin with. They also did not offer amends (like saying, "but what we will do to make things right is plug in 6.xx anyway for the life of Zorin OS 17 and support it," for example). So in that sense, it is as though they broke a promise to us users in terms of failing to live up to expectations and no subsequent follow-through, especially in light of knowing how a higher kernel version could resolve users' complaints about lag and such in Zorin OS 17 (on 6.8), which I did encounter intermittently until I installed 6.12, and my PC became "zippy" again. It was then that the disappointment set in. Hope that makes sense. And @Aravisian also did point out the Zorin Group's history of ongoing promises or whatever that have gone unfulfilled. This is yet another "promise" that went unfulfilled. Thanks.

Thank you, Aravisian. Yes.

This. Exactly. Yes. I wouldn't have said anything, either. But here we are.

Everyone:

I am moving on from this entire topic. I trust you all will, too. (Thank you.) I am not sure what I will do next. I do know, though, that I would like to use a distro supported by developers who believe in communication with users on a regular, committed basis (e.g., monthly or whatever). A distro that has a history of proven, thoughtful changes that benefit all users. A distro that goes the extra mile. For example, Linux Mint does monthly blog posts and explains their plans clearly. That's one. Second, Linux Mint has taken steps in the past to improve the internal workings of Mint (and explained to users what they were doing, and why). Third, Linux Mint has gone the extra mile by releasing "EDGE" editions with newer kernels to accommodate newer hardware (when they didn't "have" to).

That's earned them user loyalty and commitment. Why can't Zorin? Especially for a distro that offers a paid "Pro" option and has people behind it as their full-time, professional jobs? I do like using Zorin OS. I just wish the team would listen to users and follow through with more frequent blog posts, articulating definitive plans that are actually followed through on, and so on. Many of us have offered good suggestions; some of which have been utilized and deployed in the OS. (Great.) But the fact remains - consistent communication is still an ongoing issue. Unkept stated deliverables are still an ongoing issue. I'm going to sleep on all this a bit more, and then move forward however I decide to. Thank you to everyone. I hope this discussion has been productive for everyone in some way.

I understand You. And I don't blame You, that You are disappointed that it with the Kernel will not come.

The Thing is: we don't know what Info's the Zorin's had before. When Ubuntu first would have had the Plan to bring it, but then later decided against it. The Problem now: Zorin doesn't offer a Statement with Details about that. We only have ''The Kernel doesn't come''. That is not the best Communication. And this Discussion belongs to that, too. On the Firefox-Topic they came and we can see that they explained their Action. Unfortunately we don't have that here.

Hmm ... I understand what You want say, but I don't share that. A broken Promise is for me different than unfulfilled Expectations. But that is more a Definition Thing for me.

The Problem with that is, that they would have to maintain that. And there would be the Question if the 2-Man-Team has the Manpower for this. You named Linux Mint, POP OS or Debian here. But these Projects have more People and Ressources to do their Stuff. So, they can handle more.

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Thank you.

Hello again. I contacted Artyom and asked for a bit more Information about the Kernel Thing. And he wrotes this:

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