Thunderbird glitch

Lucidoobe · October 11, 2025, 5:20am

Version nebula 128.12.Oesr appears to be stuck and will not open Local Folders Synas MAIL contents of folders.

The folder contents shell is visible only. I have uninstalled thunderbird completely and then re-installed, but it appears that the re-install happens immediately without downloading. All my previous settings are intact without needing to set them up from scratch.

Storm · October 11, 2025, 7:53am

Is this the System installed Thunderbird or from flatpak?

Lucidoobe · October 12, 2025, 9:35pm

Flatpak. Non deb. Not the version that will not support network local folders. If I copy the "mail" out of the synas unit to an external drive, and reference that as local documents, no problems. each folder displays internal files.

Storm · October 12, 2025, 10:54pm

Have you set up Thunderbird flatpak its permission with Flatseal?

Forpli · October 13, 2025, 2:07am

Download flatseal and in flatseal select thunderbird and search for filesystem. There enable all users files/system files (or specify the storage location).

Lucidoobe · October 14, 2025, 3:14am

I admit that I have never heard of Flatseal?

Lucidoobe · October 14, 2025, 3:16am

So Flatseal is in flatpak software and is proprietary software?

Forpli · October 14, 2025, 3:42am

It is a flatpak as your thunderbird app.
Flatpaks and snaps are sandboxed and isolated from the system.
Some flatpaks come from unverified sources. It is best to always check whether the developer of the software app provides a flatpak or not and where the flatpak comes from.
They often cause problems when they have not the right permissions and don't have access to required system files.
Flatpaks can be used on all distributions, which makes them so popular with developers. .deb packages only work on Debian/Ubuntu-based distributions.

To manage the permissions for flatpak packages install flatseal.

https://linuxconfig.org/how-to-manage-flatpaks-privileges-with-flatseal

You can avaoid these packages and only use native .deb packages. Nearly all Zorin packages are such native .deb packages. They are well integrated into the system and need less storage place. The disadvantage is that they often don't offer the newest functions as they are a bit older versions of the apps (as Zorin 17 is based on LTS ubuntu 22) than flatpaks.

Lucidoobe · October 18, 2025, 6:11am

Working on it.

Lucidoobe · October 20, 2025, 2:47am

Running into problems right off with "Thunderbird" not appearing on the left column of Flatseal's seen applications?

Except as per under All Aplications there is a box entitled "Files" where I pasted the network "mail" folder to be accessed and displayed. (see screenshot).

Lucidoobe · October 20, 2025, 10:24pm

Lucidoobe · October 20, 2025, 10:25pm

I inserted the above, but no joy. Still cannot see the files in Local Folders except the folder shell only.

Forpli · October 21, 2025, 3:04am

I'm sorry, I can't help you with that. I don't use flatpaks or network myself. I'm surprised that Thunderbird isn't displayed in flatseal if it's a flatpak. I've never heard of that.

When you enter
flatpak list
in terminal, is Thunderbird shown in the terminal output?

Lucidoobe · October 21, 2025, 4:08am

Mmm..... No it is not, but I did install from the Software list via search. I am going to paste the terminal results here if i can?

F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
F: Unexpected filesystem suffix server=synas,share=volume_1/MY DOCUMENTS/MAIL, ignoring
Name Application ID Version Branch Origin Installation
X A… …inger.XAirEdit 1.8.1 stable flathub system
Bra… ….brave.Browser 1.83.118 stable flathub system
Fla… …chx84.Flatseal 2.4.0 stable flathub system
Pul… …m.pulseeffects 4.8.7 stable flathub system
Bot… …ottles.bottles 51.24 stable flathub system
Fre… …sktop.Platform freedesktop-sdk-23.08.34 23.08 flathub system
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Mesa …m.GL32.default 25.2.4 24.08 flathub system
Cod… …m.codecs-extra 25.08-extra flathub system
FFm… …rm.ffmpeg-full 24.08 flathub system
i386 …mpeg_full.i386 24.08 flathub system
Cis… …tform.openh264 2.5.1 2.5.1 flathub system
GNO… …gnome.Platform 48 flathub system
GNO… …gnome.Platform 49 flathub system
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Zor… …ZorinBlue-Dark 3.22 zorinos system
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Zor… …inPurple-Light 3.22 zorinos system
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Zor… …ZorinRed-Light 3.22 zorinos system
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QGn… …QGnomePlatform 5.15-24.08 flathub system
QAd… …itaDecorations 5.15-24.08 flathub system
Fir… …ozilla.firefox 144.0 stable flathub system
Tel… …legram.desktop 6.2.3 stable flathub system
VLC …g.videolan.VLC 3.0.21 stable flathub system
gec… …ehq.Wine.gecko stable-24.08 flathub system
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Kodi tv.kodi.Kodi 21.2-Omega stable flathub system
Zoom us.zoom.Zoom 6.6.0.4410 stable flathub system
bruce@LINUX5:~$

Lucidoobe · October 21, 2025, 4:09am

I notice that most of the readout from the top mentions "ignoring" re the NAS server MAIL folder?

Forpli · October 21, 2025, 4:25am

What is shown in
snap list?

Lucidoobe · October 23, 2025, 5:15am

bruce@LINUX5:~$ snap list
Name Version Rev Tracking Publisher Notes
bare 1.0 5 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core18 20250910 2952 latest/stable canonical✓ base
core20 20250730 2669 latest/stable canonical✓ base
gnome-3-28-1804 3.28.0-19-g98f9e67.98f9e67 198 latest/stable canonical✓ -
gtk-common-themes 0.1-81-g442e511 1535 latest/stable canonical✓ -
snapd 2.72 25577 latest/stable canonical✓ snapd
whatsapp-linux-app 1.2.0 2 latest/stable swe-himel -
bruce@LINUX5:~$

Forpli · October 23, 2025, 5:24am

Thunderbird is not shown at flatpaks and snaps, so probably it is a .deb package or something went wrong at installation. When you open gnome software and search for Thunderbird, is Thunderbird shown as installed? And which package format is shown there?

Lucidoobe · October 23, 2025, 9:12pm

Lucidoobe · October 23, 2025, 9:13pm

It does not show up in the installed list, but only as above in the search for list, where I installed from?