What is Zorin missing?

I loaded up PopOS last night just for a demo and found it to be slow which I did not like - neat features but slow. Zorin seems a little more tied together. What is Zorin missing?

I thought it was neat that PopOS had a recovery partition option or built in. It had some neat tiling built in, easily changeable. Anyway it seems like these OS's all have different little features.

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I think you can find the tiling thing on Gnome Extension site if you wish to add it to Zorin OS.

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About tilling, I haven't tested it in depth on POP_OS to see all the features, but Zorin has an extension for that. If you enable the advanced/experimental options you can enable more features, create layouts, etc.

One feature I really like about POP is the launcher in a dropdown menu. I'm using ULauncher on Zorin to have something similar.

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Thanks I will have a look at it!

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I've been following Zorin OS 17 since its release, but am still on Zorin OS 16.3. I'd say what Zorin is missing, is the CPU Power Manager tool, it allows you to lock the CPU at a set frequency that you choose.

As good as auto turbo is, I've played games where the CPU frequency was going up and down all over the place, causing me to experience lag.

Thats when I went to hunt down a tool that allows me to set the CPU frequency speed and lock it in, ever since I got that, its made Zorin OS 16 usable for gaming for me.

Anyways, thats what Zorin OS 17 is missing. Since my OS 16.3 is still secure for now until 2025, I am holding off on upgrading my OS, until the Zorin team releases Zorin OS 18.

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It's missing libnvidia-egl-wayland1. I came from GarudaOS Dragonized Edition and rarely had problems with the games I tried while in Wayland. The only game I must be able to play is Overwatch. When coming over to Zorin, I could not understand why it was that I could not get Overwatch to do better than 10fps when on Wayland, but X11 I had to cap it at 165fps. Turned out that libnvidia-egl-wayland1 was missing. Installed it, rebooted, and now my game is very playable. What's missing from Zorin? libnvidia-egl-wayland1

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Missing Plasma 6. I have Zorin with Plasma 5 but 6 is needed. I am not confident on installing 6 yet.

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For me, a handful of things.

  • Plasma 6
  • Gamescope either by default or as an easily added package
  • HDR support
  • Faster polling rate for USB
  • Whatever it is that makes Wayland NOT have typing lag for me in certain applications. (On Zorin and Tuxedo OS, when typing in Discord and some other things, there's distinct, maddening latency between keypress and results. On Nobara and Bazzite, I didn't experience this.)
  • Better removal of orphaned shortcuts & pre-installed software generally. I shouldn't have to track down a .desktop file and delete it by hand for something Zorin installed. Likewise, if Zorin put an application on there, it ought to be removable through the software store or another trivial method. Having to search through ALL installed packages to find and remove the Zorin OS onboarding tour's icon isn't good UX.

Since Aravisian pinged devs, I'll include links with more information on the last point, since it's not merely wishlist stuff:

My issue with orphaned .desktops
Another user's issue with difficult to remove pre-installed packages (this one is universal).

This will be available in Zorin OS 18.

It is not available in any distro that is previous to the glibc dependency that Plasma 6 calls for. Zorin OS does not officially support Plasma D.E., therefor it is not reasonable to propose that rather extensive changes be made to it in order to support a Desktop Environment that is not intended for use on Zorin OS.
This is true of Mint or POP_OS or Elive...

I think you and I share certain similarities. But, in this case, orphaned files are intentionally left behind and for a good reason:
Many removals are actually reinstalls. By far, the majority. If not initiated by the user, then those initiated by the system performing upgrades, updates and file management. Only necessary or configuration files are left behind for most packages which means that they take up very little space. This preserves the integrity of the files for the reinstall.
This is standard in all operating systems, as well. Well... most common Operating systems, anyway. Vehicular or certain military operating systems use a very different method but those are not used by people in their homes.

I can see how a .desktop file remaining that leaves an app in the app menu that is not installed would be annoying. However... I have never experienced this. Every removal of a package removes the .desktop file. I have no idea what caused you to experience one remaining behind but that is a very unusual case.

That's certainly true, but the thread is "What is Zorin Missing?" I don't really take that as a pragmatic "What can be implemented easily in 17.2" so much as "What would people like to see?" A thread like this is precisely where I think it's appropriate to let Zorin Group see what the level of interest is in adding actual support, even if current plans don't include it.

Yes, though I'm not talking about orphaned config files. I do understand why they're left behind, though I feel that what flatpaks do in prompting for total removal of config files is the right thing to do. If the reinstall happened because the program isn't working right or the original configuration is desired, leaving configuration files behind risks the reinstall starting in a bad state. That said, again, I wasn't talking about orphaned files in general, only .desktop files.

I haven't installed from the 17.2 ISO yet, but every install I did with the 17.1 Pro ISO before I switched to minimal installs had this problem. FreeCAD was the worst offender. I'm not asking you to try to reproduce, but I assure you, it happened. I think the situation with the tour package not being removable without hunting it down and doing it via Synaptic or command line is the bigger deal, certainly. No matter how many times it happened to me, I can believe it's an edge case. I've tested software professionally for almost 20 years; I've seen countless things that happened only to one person, or stopped just as soon as a less senior tester asked me to investigate.

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Very good point. :slight_smile:

Standard is that the .desktop files are removed with removal. If a piece of software is installed using make rather than apt, I can see some deviation in this... So how it was installed may provide an answer.
Anything you install through Software Store, Synaptic or terminal apt commands should not ever show this problem. If it did, a bug report may be necessary.

Certainly, I believe you. But I would hope to help ensure the right impression; That is unusual and not standard behavior of installs.

This was installed with the OS during the initial install of 17.1 Pro when choosing the "not-minimal" install. I can honestly say I've never had it happen to me post-install. My expectation as a user, birthed from Windows and possibly a case of "get used it it; you're in GNOMEland now," is that shortcuts can be deleted via context menu unless the OS is protecting them. (Or MS has decided it wants me to keep them, which is a different thread. :P)

I think this kind of feedback should definitely be noticed so to that end:
@AZorin @zorink paged to the thread; Specifically posts here and here which outline Zorin specific apps (Tour) or preinstalled apps. Possible improvements to removals of these apps for users seeking a lean system.

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Thanks for the heads up. We've now taken note of it in our development roadmap.

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