I've been stuck with Windows through all it's changes, from '95 to 11, so it's time for a permanent change to full time Zorin. Tried 9 years ago and liked it but chickened out. I have some win 10 hardware I don't want to lose so I have to man up. I'm hopeless at asking the right questions though, wrong generation I guess, I might be just too old at 67, but I will keep trying.