Alternative reality

click bait title, right?
I was thinking, since zorin is depended from ubuntu, what will happen with zorin if we wake up one day and ubuntu is gone!

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Zorin would be arch! :joy:

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Honestly, I tried some arch distros in gnome boxes....I don't want to leave ubuntu. At least not yet.

No Arch allowed, only XFCE


hmmm..But arch is a linux distribution/base and XFCE is a DE.

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I said it, cause anyone who knows anything about Arch, knows that its going to be a PITA, and no beginner will ever give it a chance, its not meant for beginners, it never was. Zorin OS is primarily an OS for beginners, this is how its marketed, and its how its known in the entire Linux community.

Going to Arch, which is widely known as a true challenge and PITA to setup, and a hackers OS, will take Zorin OS away from being an OS for beginners. If the Zorin bro's are going to be successful, they can't simply just switch whatever direction the wind blows.

The Zorin's must choose their decision wisely. I however believe it is unwise to switch to Arch. But hey, thats just my opinion. And at the end of the day, my opinion matters not. The Zorin brother's opinion is all that matters here.

Because they are the ones who are going to make the choice. And we will go to them in our therapy sessions, where they will help us understand it.


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fish are biting tonight

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It is not unfounded fear.
If you were following the evolution of Canonical since Ubuntu 8 like myself, you could see that they could/might/may/would pull the plug of Ubuntu in the future.

My BCM is to keep up with a development of Debian based distros.
I am currently using Mint Debian edition on my sub-machine and MXLinux on our Wordpress server - just in case.

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Humm...
4-most-dangerous-fresh-water-fish-goonch-fishwithout-label-filter

courtesy of

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If someone ever tells you that there is plenty of fish in the sea, and that someday you will hook a big fish. Well, I am pretty sure that this above is not what they meant. :joy:


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Even more frightening scenario.
Zorin desktop adopted Pantheon :scream:

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I can't see what the issue is with Pantheon (Mac look DE). I've said from the early days that Zorin should really be looking at Debian with either SysVinit, runit, or S6 instead of SystemD. I pointed out that YAMA (Yet Another Menu Application) was the only menu at the time that worked with Orca the screenreader in ZorinOS 9 which up until recently was still available in Debian repos; this issue was addressed though with the release of Zorin 12. I would also like DE's to be KDE (Plasma) and xfce or LXQt which is lightweight version of KDE and can use the same libraries. Plus, no snapd, no flatpak, no app image - not sure if the latter still have root privileges without sandboxing!

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My experience is rather limited.
I installed Elementary OS (Pantheon DE) on my daughter-in-law's netbook but she did not like it at all. After some discussion we settled for Peppermint OS (XFCE + LXDC).

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but how much more trouble will it be to become a standalone distro (that maybe uses existing package managers), like solus os? I mean, if two guys could make solus a strong distro, why can't zorin do it? it's just my opinion, and I think people like things that are their own things and not derivatives of something else

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I like LED light bulbs, that when turned on, I get a new idea. :crazy_face:

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Good question. I have no idea.

I just remember that interview of head Mint developer (Clement Lefebvre). He was asked why he bothered to create a Debian based Mint while Ubuntu based ones are flourishing. For me, it sounds quite an involved process to change a base OS.
(The interview was on a French Radio programme some years ago. )

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I hope so :slight_smile:

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Hi Marko,
Make sure to visit this new thread:

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Debian testing would be the most logically move.

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And Ubuntu is based on Debian, so then it would be a direct distro like Ubuntu is based on Debian.

No need to re-invent the wheel. It wouldn't be as difficult as changing to a completely different platform.

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