Delivered Zorin Core on a 2nd hand laptop to mum today :)

I spent about an hour with her doing basic stuff. It's not 100% configured as i didn't have time to do a few little things like set up her printer (it auto-detected, but as is usually the case the drivers don't offer much in the way of maintenance info and tools).

It went well.

I did quite a lot of prep-work, mostly preference-related and automation. The only "problem" i had had been reported by someone else on this forum: Tracker-miner-fs Indexing and High CPU Usage - #4 by Aravisian

Once i did that, the performance was MASSIVELY improved.

Anyway, i'll report back in a few months about how things went. She's moved from Windows 10 to Zorin 17, which should be better because it's a full 7 versions newer :wink:

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I have explained in the unofficial manual for Zorin 17 that the Linux kernel correctly identifies the printer attached but if you look at properties it will tell you the printer is driverless. You have to download the official drivers or alternatively install Gutenprint which has all the latest drivers present for most if not all printers. Also don't use the method via Settings | Printers, and stop autodiscovery before you install the printer (another minus point for systemd).

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The CUPS drivers do not provide for things like printer head maintenance and some other nice bits. But yes, it will print fine with CUPS. My parents asked me before buying the printer, and i made sure it had Linux drivers. I tested it out on my laptop a while ago and it was actually awesome and easy. I was shocked because my previous printer driver experience with official Xerox drivers (for a home printer) was pretty bad. This was many years ago though.

FWIW, their printer is an Epson ET-3800.

My bad, I meant Gutenprint.

Also, found this nugget:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Epson/comments/1e690jk/credit_to_epson_for_their_inkjet_printer_drivers/

nice! :slight_smile:

Genuinely I have found that printing on any linux box tends to be much easier than the windows counterparts. Now there are caveats to that, but for the most part, especially because most printers people have are older, I tend to find they just work without really any or much fiddling at all.

Even brand new printers that have windows support can be a right pain in the butt to make work on windows, still to this day. That has always driven me up the wall.

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There is much truth to this. I often avoid troubleshooting Printer issues on this forum or GnuLinux in general because I lack all experience with it. I have never had any printer woes on GnuLinux. Zero. Everything worked with no effort.
It's funny to me... that Printers are one of the things I know the least about because it just works.

Other people do have trouble once in a while - Xerox is notorious...

But on Windows... I could troubleshoot printers on Windows all day with both eyes tied behind my back and my hands closed.
Which makes a funny picture on its own.

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Just had an issue with my Brother printer and cups again when I started dual booting with Zorin and Mint ..... I had previously had problems with printing from WiFi but switched to a USB cable .....

The problem was once again with cups even though I still had it hooked up by USB ..... cups would recognize my printer name Brother DCP T500W and had it displayed in the cups settings but when it came to the model name it insisted I had a different model name other than DCP T500W ..... it kept choosing something 1200 xxxx xxx or something like that .....

Spent the better part of a week running down info until I finally downloaded ALL the drivers for the DCP T500W printer from the Brother website and installed all of them I think there were 4 total ...... that must have been the trick because it is now working on both OS's ..... I'm still using the USB cable .... I gave up on the WiFi to much trouble using it .....

/me who never owned a printer.

Aw, your cat would love one.

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When the paper flies out of the printer? :smiley:

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Try to find one that makes a reasonable amount of noise.

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In the early days I had a bulbous Canon i-850:

At the time there was no Linux driver. So what did I do? I looked at the ink cartridge box to see what other printers it waa compatible with, the newest on the list was a BJC-8800. There was a driver for that and problem solved.

@Frog install Gutenprint as it has all current printer drivers present. What I have annoyingly discovered will no longer support Gutenprint in future releases, perhaps they double up as Gnome devs!

[Update: found correct image]

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Thank you sir I will look into it ..... I think you had helped me several years ago with using an HP Jet printer work around for my Brother but that was for getting it to print using WiFi .....

Like I said I am now using a 10 meter USB cable from my router to my laptop .....

Thank goodness we live in modern times, where there is no longer a huge need to print stuff off. It isn't just because computer's and the internet in general has been a thing for 50-years comp 34 years internet. Its also because of the huge inclusion in tablet computer's and phones, where you always have one on your person, combined with touch screen displays to write signatures, it just overall makes paper irrelevant now days.

These days, I see printing as wasteful, you might as well print directly into the recycle bin, cause thats where the paper will end up anyways, eventually. Maybe if somebody hasn't bought a tablet yet, maybe I could see printing off a page, but Android based tablets are so cheap now, I kind of don't see why, unless someone is just dirt poor?

Life Lol GIF by America's Funniest Home Videos

As funny as that GIF is, to be honest, there was a time when we printed off everything, whether it be simple text prints, or photo prints. There was a giant boom in the printing industry, between the years 1997 to 2005, where everybody was printing off their photo's, it was a big deal then.

These days, nobody even bother's thinking about printing off anything, infact, these days most folks don't even own a printer at all! The reality is, once computer's got better, the internet got better, and tablet computing and smart phones really kicked off, with all their fancy technologies, there simply is no need to waste paper and ink, to print stuff off.

But, even still, there is going to be some folks out there, with an incessant need to print on paper, I may never understand why, but some like to. But I consider the age of printing, D.E.A.D ---- dead. lol


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I'm guessing where you live, most people don't own generators either.

A printer is essential for me. Mostly for shipping labels.

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Most people don't own generators, even though they need one, because we live in a winter storm area, that seems to knock out power just about every year. I admit, it took me decades to get myself straightened out, and finally got myself a generator. Still, none of the neighbors around me own one. But when the temps dip down to 0 degrees F, and everything in your home is electric powered only, you will wish you had a generator, is all I am saying lol.

I wanted a Honda generator, but their a price gouging expensive, unless you buy the itti bitti ones, that will only power a light bulb, fan, computer, etc. I ended up getting a few years ago, a Westinghouse Wgen 7500 - 9500 watt generator, and it powers everything in my house, except for the things that don't matter, like the furnace, hot water heater, and oven.

But I can run 2-1500 watt space heaters off the generator, as well as an old style microwave, coffee brewer, coffee grinder, lights, fans, computers, tv's, you name it. And that was a serious game changer for me, because I no longer had to live in a the dark ages, when the power went out.

The only issue to having a generator, whether it runs on gasoline, propane, or diesel, is that you need to have a good supply of that fuel source, to run a generator for a day or more. My generator, which runs on gasoline, as an efficiency of running for 11-hours, per 6.5 gallon tank of gasoline, running with a medium load against it.

The smaller the generator, with the same size tank, can run even longer, but then your reducing your electricity production capacity. I envy people who live in areas which never loses power, they are the real lucky ones. But I sure felt for those folks who were truly screwed in Texas years ago. Then more recently, they went through baseball sized hail dropping on them and destroying their cars and home roof's.


OK, I will give you that, printing shipping labels is still a requirement in the industry. For some reason my mind didn't think of that, call it brain block lol. So yeah, shipping labels, unless we figure out a way to do that so we don't need them, like maybe screen printing directly onto the box or something. Hey, that might be a neat idea? Hmm.


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Here most people have them. We have a season for natural disasters. Anyway linemen don't come here from all over the country to risk their lives restoring internet. Power is priority. So we keep lots of gas, cash, and maybe printed reference materials. Even though generators are common, you need to run them for important things like fans, not devices.

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