The idea of immutable OS is very interesting to me and definitely has a use case for controlled environments. Companies like RedHat and SUSE already have their own versions of: Silverblue and Micro, respectively; it's no surprise Canonical is planning to do make their own version of Ubuntu as an immutable OS.
But I really doubt any of these companies ditch entirely their "regular" versions.
Also, some distros use Ubuntu Core precisely because it offers them a minimal base from which to develop.
Personally I would be all for this. The most important thing for an OS is to be functional and this will limit user error tremendously.
I do appreciate users who want the freedom but honestly for most I would call this a win. The main downside I see is would distros like Mint/Zorin be forced to follow along? Because that would kind of suck. (Assuming it becomes the only version)
I think this takes us back to the conversation of using a different distribution as a base 
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I dont think, this will happen because according to the link, the feature 'immutable os' will be introduced in ubuntu 24.04, while zorin is based on 20.04 version of ubuntu, as far as i know.
I am not sure what ZorinGroup would think of the decision but I am pretty positive Mint would be against this.
Maybe that Debian “just in case” version will be their main version 1 or 2 releases down.
Hopefully this will not effect them and everybody can be happy. But it seems that such a change to Ubuntu would have to effect the distros based on it.
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This is correct. I am just thinking 3 or 4 years down the road, it really depends on what Canonical’s plans are as far as forcing it in the future or continuing with 2 versions.
Zorin OS 12 is based on Ubuntu 16.04
Zorin OS 15 is based on Ubuntu 18.04
Zorin OS 16 is based on Ubuntu 20.04
Zorin OS 17 is based on Ubuntu 22.04
While I sincerely doubt they would change have they absolutely confirmed this? Just curious.
Yes, the ZorinGroup had confirmed this at the start of development back when. It also can be considered confirmed by that 22.04 is currently the only released stable (LTS) Ubuntu version.
Ubuntu 24.04 is in development and has not been released and is not even due for release prior to the projected possible Zorin OS 17 release range.
I have seen posts requesting that Zorin 17 be based on Ubuntu 24.04 on the forum, but this is an unrealistic possibility.
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If they were going to do anything other than 22.04 I would expect them to switch to a Debian base. While extremely unlikely as I mentioned was just curious.
If the ZorinGroup were to switch Bases, they would have announced it. 
They would not switch the base as a surprise to the users.
However, they have recently confirmed directly that they have no intention of switching to a different base at this time.
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I chose not to use the sidebar. 
Where do they make these updates? I haven't seen anything. I would expect, as a pro user & paying for the product, I would get a newsletter or something. Haven't seen a single update since purchased.
Do you have automatic updates enabled?
I am not sure when you purchased, but since you joined the forum, there have been a minimum of three sets come down the pipe.
Which has even been verified by users asking about them on the forum.
You can check when the last update stamp was:
ls -l /var/lib/apt/periodic/update-success-stamp
Or last apt package flow:
ls -l /var/log/apt/history.log
Or run
sudo apt update
and see if anything is awaiting. I just did... and sure enough:
31 packages can be upgraded. Run 'apt list --upgradable' to see them.
31? I just upgraded yesterday! Well, ok then...
Let's see what they are:
Summary
apt list -u
Listing... Done
apport/focal-updates,focal-updates 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.27 all [upgradable from: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.26]
avahi-autoipd/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
avahi-daemon/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
avahi-utils/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
cups-bsd/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-client/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-common/focal-updates,focal-updates,focal-security,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 all [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-core-drivers/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-daemon/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-ipp-utils/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-ppdc/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups-server-common/focal-updates,focal-updates,focal-security,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 all [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
cups/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
exaile/focal,focal 4.1.3~beta3-0ubuntu0 all [upgradable from: 4.1.2-0ubuntu0]
libavahi-client3/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-common-data/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-common3/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-compat-libdnssd1/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-core7/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-glib1/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libavahi-ui-gtk3-0/focal-updates,focal-security 0.7-4ubuntu7.2 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.7-4ubuntu7.1]
libcups2/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
libcupsimage2/focal-updates,focal-security 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.3 amd64 [upgradable from: 2.3.1-9ubuntu1.2]
linux-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-updates,focal-security 5.15.0.73.80~20.04.34 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.15.0.72.79~20.04.33]
linux-headers-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-updates,focal-security 5.15.0.73.80~20.04.34 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.15.0.72.79~20.04.33]
linux-image-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-updates,focal-security 5.15.0.73.80~20.04.34 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.15.0.72.79~20.04.33]
linux-libc-dev/focal-updates,focal-security 5.4.0-150.167 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.4.0-149.166]
mokutil/focal-updates 0.6.0-2~20.04.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 0.3.0+1538710437.fb6250f-1]
python3-apport/focal-updates,focal-updates 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.27 all [upgradable from: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.26]
python3-problem-report/focal-updates,focal-updates 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.27 all [upgradable from: 2.20.11-0ubuntu27.26]
tzdata/focal-updates,focal-updates 2023c-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 all [upgradable from: 2023c-0ubuntu0.20.04.1]
Probably not lol...
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Thanks for catching that typo. It appears I entered 18.04 twice in the list.
There is an existing thread on this question.
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No, I am asking about updates from the devs stating they are using certain things or what will be in OS 17 etc...like a newsletter. Not updates to the OS from synaptic.
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AH... ok. Yes, they uh... they really do not disclose a roadmap often...
This has been raised before. Rather harshly and vehemently and with no holds barred by ummm... Me. I did that.
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