Is this legal?

Stumbled upon this website that uses Zorin logos. Is this official merchandise? Doesn't look like to me. Under Zorin's Trademark, Copyright, and Licensing Policy, it clearly states that "Zorin Technology Group Ltd. permits the use of Zorin OS branding and the above brand assets for non-commercial use only." Link to the website: https://www.redbubble.com/shop/zorin
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@zorink @AZorin
I think only you can answer this question.

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I am not a developer for Zorin, but knowing what little I know of Copyright law, this is illegal. Unless they have expressed permission from the Zorin team, its illegal.

And I am pretty sure, if the Zorin team had given them the OK, then the Zorin team would have boasted on the forum about how we could get ahold of Zorin merch that someone was doing for them on another site.

Time for the Zorin brother's to give em the smackdown, Devin style from Legal Eagle. HEHE :grin:

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Hoping it's legit. I like the tee with the new logo. Wouldn't mind wearing that around town. But only if it's legit.

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Tell me if they got a slap on the wrist after all)))

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Might look to the silver lining: Free advertising for Zorin OS. :stuck_out_tongue:

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Yeah totally!

I say, the less people messing around with MX Linux, and get onboard with Zorin OS the better. Yes, I've seen the Distro Watch and Zorin is like number 13 on their list, I don't think thats fair at all.

POP OS is number 5 on their list. I personally look at POP OS and Zorin OS as equals. So if it was my way, I'd have them both tied, but you know were I'd have them both tied? As number 1.

All the other Linux distro's that are not Zorin and POP can go screw off. LMAO! Seriously though, who's running the show at DistroWatch, is it Canonical, cause I'd believe that if it were, we both know their opinions can't be trusted lol

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Canonical does not run or control Distrowatch. The stats from Distrowatch are a general guide, but must be taken with a grain of salt.

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Exactly. Distrowatch rankings are based on page hits:

"The DistroWatch Page Hit Ranking statistics are a light-hearted way of measuring the popularity of Linux distributions and other free operating systems among the visitors of this website. They correlate neither to usage nor to quality and should not be used to measure the market share of distributions. They simply show the number of times a distribution page on DistroWatch.com was accessed each day, nothing more."

Distrowatch is transparent in this respect. No mystery, no hidden agenda.

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Distrowatch has another less well-known, but interesting ranking: DistroWatch Project Ranking, which tabulates average rankings given to various distros by Distrowatch readers who take the time to rate and comment about the various distros.

The sampling, of course, is not controlled, but the rankings are interesting when you correlate the number of ratings against the ratings given.

It might be an interesting exercise to read through the comments about Zorin and identify areas for improvement.

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I think what makes this interesting is that users are more likely to look up a distro that they are not using on distrowatch, in order to learn more about it.

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I hadn't thought about that ... Level 0 Distrohopping.

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I have looked up a lot of distros on Distrowatch but very rarely ever looked up Zorin on it.

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I don't even bother looking up any of them. The only part of distrowatch that I've seen is the popularity list, and where each distro falls under that popularity. Which as you've said, are generated from page hits.

You know how I learned about Zorin many years ago? Not from sites like Distrowatch I can tell you that! I learned about Zorin from doing a Google search, thats right, old school search.

I searched for a Linux OS that was easy to use and looked like Windows. Thats when I came across Zorin. And even after switching to POP OS on my main machine where I game, I still can't give up on Zorin.

So I am glad I had another computer around to give excuse to install it on hehe. Plus, I had fun supporting the dev's too. :blush:

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That's probably typical. My guess is that most adopters from Windows find Zorin and other distros through reviews like "Best Linux Distribution for Windows Users in 2021" and "10 Best Linux Distros for Windows 10 Users in 2021".

Nothing odd about that ... Distrowatch is obscure. I don't know why people make such a fuss about the Distrowatch rankings/ratings. But they sure do. I think that this is the second or third time Distrowatch rankings/ratings ruffled peoples' feathers on this forum in the last month or two.

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So what I'm taking out of this, is when I'm bored with nothing to do I should go to distrowatch and just click on Zorin over and over again.... Sounds like a good way to spend an hour....

BTW, my ex-gf has this machine that makes stickers, decals, a bunch of stuff.
I'm going to ask her if she can make me a T-shirt with the Zorin logo. I just have to find a high quality blank t-shirt first. She'll do the rest. Than I can sport the coolest shirt in town.. Can't believe I didn't think of it sooner. Yet again, I am a little slow at times....

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Crosslink:

Distrowatch changed its methodology in 2004 because advocates of various distros were gaming the system in exactly the way you are proposing:

"In May 2004 the site switched from publicly viewable third-party counters to internal counters. This was prompted by a continuous abuse of the counters by a handful of undisciplined individuals who had confused DistroWatch with a poll station. The counters are no longer displayed on the individual distributions pages, but all visits are logged. Only one hit per IP address per day is counted."

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Or, take it as it is. An honest count is as good. :wink:

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Thanks for letting us know! There were unauthorized commercial uses of our trademarks, which is not permitted. We've contacted Redbubble about this, and they have removed these products from their site.

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