Hi to everyone. Been a while since I posted here. I still don't use Zorin currently (am on Linux Mint), but I happened to see this, and thought I'd share here since Zorin uses GNOME. I still think (as I have said in a couple posts before) Zorin should switch to a different desktop environment like Cinnamon (and switch to Debian as its base), and this link highlights part of why I made the suggestion I did. CLICK HERE. I suppose Zorin won't actually be switching anytime soon, since I did read recently that they started sponsoring the Dash to Panel extension (which was nice of them to do, I'll say, but I do recognize why they did it - it's in their self-interest to do so - still, it was a good gesture in and of itself). Even though I don't use Zorin currently, it still holds a place in my heart since it was my first serious Linux distro and helped me switch from Windows to Linux (and I still think it looks good, too; very polished and all), so I just wanted to share this link here. Bottom line here is that what happens with GNOME does affect Zorin OS, so hopefully this is something the developers are keeping an eye on. Thanks.
I'm sure they're keeping an eye on things, but they've also stated that they clearly wish to continue with Gnome as it aligns (presently) with what they want Zorin to be. Whether or not that continues in the future, remains to be seen.
Also I got a chuckle out of this part of the post:
To those on the board and CoC committee who were involved in Sonny’s ban: I’m asking you to step down from your positions
Good luck on getting them to step down, I don't think there's ever really been a change of leadership over there lol. In a world where people prioritize either the project or others over themselves, this wouldn't even need to be asked. But once people get to places of power, they typically don't want to give it away.
Agreed re: leadership. True.
More interesting on a usable Level, I find that, what I've read today: In Gnome 49 will be the X11 Session disabled and on Gnome 50 X11 will be removed entirely.
Fedora goes further and want to remove the X11 Gnome Session with Fedora 43.
They are really pushing their agenda hard, aren't they...
My Problem with this is: Will Wayland and the Wayland Implementation in Gnome 50 be ready for this Step? I mean, theres is no Xorg Safety Net if something shouldn't work. If it will not work, it will be not usable or only hard usable Trash.
Bad leadership indeed, but from a technical perspective there's not enough reason for Zorin OS to switch to something else. What I mean by this is the technical challenge of learning to do things in a different way. Maybe there's a case to be made that if the recent versions of Gnome have dealt with the majority of issues with Wayland and such, it's not worth the effort. Just thinking out loud...
For me personally I don't think Cinnamon cuts it. My favourite DE is back to KDE Plasma on PCLOS Debian, but I also like their take on xfce. Whilst my preference is for a system with no systemd, one that I do favour is Q4OS, as I think it is an OS that gets overlooked and should also be considered by Window's migrators, which I alluded to in a video I created for it:
They also have a Trinity Desktop Environment which is basically what KDE looked like prior to Plasma, and better still a 32-bit version can prevent e-waste:
It is inevitable that internecine disagreements and politics in a workplace will exist.
A factor of focus is the severity.
One workplace may have only a little of this type of unrest with most cases minor and generally easily resolved.
As another may have a far more advanced case of it that is toxic and harmful to its employees with issues ignored.
Another factor is whether these issues leak out of the established borders of that work environment and begin to affect the product or consumers.
It may affect the quality or reliability of the product, the direction that company is moving in (Harmful or benign) or it may more directly affect the customers with exploitation, abuse or indifference.
As I look at Gnome over the past several years, I see indifference of customer input in regards to feedback, suggestions and bugreports.
I see a direction of Gnome development that often seems at odds with FOSS.
I see abuse in LibAdwaita and other limiting or control-enforcing developments that deny the end user access to the Workbench.
I do not see exploitation, at this time. Though I admit, that door may open with A.I. involvement. A.I. itself is not intrinsically evil. But with humans at the helm, propelled by personal motives and self interest using it in a manner to enrich themselves, evil can be done.
Exactly right.
We're doomed. Akin to only selling electric cars, but no charge points infrastructure for them. But that is another story, so do not respond to that here.
It's not easy, when you bring it up... 