Latency issues - mouse/desktop

The reasons why this is better not included OOB at this time is currently covered in the thread on that topic.

So does Windows OS.
What Windows calls "Fast startup" is very misleading.
It takes Windows OS the same amount of time to boot from cold. So Microsoft instituted a "Sleep" function, then named it "Fast Startup." But it is not startup. It is "wake" from sleep.

I agree about file transfer progress bar being better in its own popup window. In Lite, you also see the queue if you initiate multiple transfers.

Drag n' Drop does seem to be having some new issues lately. I guess this one is just timing... This is the first time I have seen such drag n' drop failures. I am not sure the cause.
I know that drag n' drop has historically had issues in Wayland.

  • I agree on points #6 and #7.

This may be possible: Introduction to Active Directory integration - Ubuntu Server documentation

This is a known Gnome Desktop issue that has been commented on for years... I am not sure why Gnome drags its feet with these bug reports.

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I've switched to X11 via the logon prompt, the latency issues appear to have significantly decreased, especially at startup from cold boot. The systems 'feels' more responsive during high CPU activity. It also looks identical :slight_smile:

As a Windoze tech I'm simply not aware about all these options until you guys helped educate me, thanks. But Zorin needs to focus on one and implement it well and oob.

Maybe Lite is the way ahead (I'll try on a USB stick first), wish I hadn't 'misunderstood' the core vs lite 'marketing'.

Thanks for all your guidance and time, really appreciated.

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You are not alone in this. I did too. And I struggled and struggled with Core for months (I am stubborn.)
During a distrohopping session when I decided to move on away from Zorin, I tried many distros, then in frustration tried out Zorin OS Lite.
The difference between it and Core was like night and day. It was responsive, full featured, less buggy, not conflicting extensions and most importantly, I could customize it my way without feeling like I was pulling teeth.

I never went back. When I need to run an instance of Core for testing purposes, I groan.

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You've made me LOL! Yes, I'm persisting with core in a similar manner my week's worth of 'sunk cost fallacy'. However x11 has made somewhat of a difference on at least perceived desktop latency issues.

But 'Lite' it could be. I need to re-read replies about lite vs core.

Cheers
Lea

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I would very much like Zorin OS not to discontinue Zorin Lite as planned, but rather Core with Gnome.
I am currently using Linux Mint XFCE because the oob offers more customisation options and settings that you have to set up first with Zorin lite, e.g. view of the start menu, more choice of themes by default, timeshift backup, configurability of the update tool/automatic maintenance and not using snaps by default.
But the forum here is the best!

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I think you would probably also prefer another start menu that is more flexible. For core you can use arc menu instead, for lite you can use whisker menu.

We'll here's a turn up for the books - not only is the desktop FAR more responsive and shows 90% less latency issues using X11 (xfce? logon icon change) it's resolved my DnD upload to websites issue. I'll update my other thread with this workaround.

How do I permanently select XFCE using core? The reason I ask is I now remember (after above poster) why I didn't chose Lite, it's planned obsolescence!

Update - side effect of x11 -my cpus are constantly running at 40%, weird, cant see any process responsible. Anyway, the testing continues.

You guys are awesome!

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That makes me happy! Zorin lite only uses X11, not Wayland, so there are fewer problems.

If you have switched to X11, it will stay that way. However, you will only get XFCE if you have also installed the Zorin lite desktop. Here too, the setting for which session you want to use remains saved until you change it.

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I switched to 'Zorin Desktop on Xorg' at the logon prompt, it seems to be persistent to my surprise, I haven't installed Lite -this option is an issue if it's going obsolete :frowning:

More terminology! What is Xorg - off to Copilot!

From the Zorin website LOL, not in my experience! The desktop experience is poor, with latency being the biggest issue and my lappy is only 5 years old - even if a bit low on resources! 4GB Ram, Intel celery x2, SSD

Why Zorin OS Lite will be sunset

  • Thanks to recent optimizations to the standard desktop environment, the non-Lite editions of Zorin OS (Core, Pro, and Education) are able to provide a fast and resource-efficient computing experience on older computers. It’s now possible to run the non-Lite editions of Zorin OS on computers with as little as 1½ GB of RAM and on machines as old as 15 years, with higher performance than the Lite edition in some tasks.
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Not in many peoples experience.
The website announcement appears to stem from early benchmark testing that showed Gnome D.E. as having equivelent resouce consumption as XFCE.

However...

No independent benchmarking since has been able to replicate those results. In fact, the Gnome D.E. showed heavier usage.
To be clear, this was not ZorinGroups doing; they read the initial reports then posted that they decided to cease support for any D.E. other than Gnome.

This was followed by my both private and public statement that past that point, I will give no support to Zorin OS in any capacity.
If they cannot support the diversity of GnuLinux, I cannot in good conscience support them.

We migrate away from Windows OS to avoid that monopolization and excessive control with limited options.

Having reviewed the Zorin website, it mentions Lite will be supported until June 2029 and that's quite some time for Zorin OS to improve Core and Gnome. So I may still give this a go.

So will sudo apt install zorin-os-lite-desktop retain all my app installs and I can simply choose this lite desktop at boot option somewhere?

Update: according to Copilot yes, lets give this ago, exciting!

Diring install, some question about gd3...oh no, did I choose the correct window manager?

You can choose the lite desktop at login with the cog icon.
Yes, your apps are all retained. You just can't use the things that only work under Gnome, e.g. Zorin connect, Gnome tweaks, Gnome extensions, Gnome menu. But in XFCE you don't need these extensions to achieve the same thing. Instead of Zorin connect you can use KDE connect.

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Cheers

Installed, disaster (probably expectations), completely blank desktop with a mouse background on both Xfcs session or Zorin OS Lite options at login.

Could not get System Monitor to run - just didn't display.

No Task bar/Panel.

Tbh was expecting it to resemble Zorin on Xorg. Maybe I now have configure every option to recreate a Win10 minimal experience but that's not going to be much fun. Whilst I understand many members of GNU communities enjoy configuring every single element, that's not what the Win10 users need in the first instance, we look for a core productivity which needs a Win10 desktop basic features as Zorin on Xorg offers. Is this why Lite is Lite?

Forgive me if I misunderstand and again thanks for your help.

Das klingt, wie wenn Sie den normalen Xfce4-Desktop installiert haben und nicht den von Zorin.

I have no idea, there was a question during the install, I chose the default I think it mentioned GD3, should have taken a snap

Unfortunately, I don't remember what I had set at the time. But gdm3 is the default display manager for gnome, and I think I had selected lightdm, which is the default display manager used by XFCE. If that's the problem, I'm sure we can fix it, but it'll take the pros.
If you just type "sudo apt install xfce4", you get the normal xfce desktop environment, which has a blue background with a white mouse. Zorin lite desktop looks similar to Zorin core.
Something has gone wrong here.
Zorin lite is normally just as easy to use as Zorin core. You can get a first impression of Zorin lite (unfortunately only version 17.1) on the distrosea website, for example. There Zorin lite is started as a virtual machine.

To get the Zorin theme, you can enter "sudo apt install zorin-desktop-themes".

But then still the Zorin lite menu and the Zorin Appearance layouts are missing.
I wonder if "sudo apt install --reinstall zorin-os-lite-desktop" could help you. But I don't know if you can set another default display manager then during the installation. It should actually work with both.
We'll wait until @Aravisian is here again. He is the expert for Zorin Lite.

Could it be GDM3? this is the Login Screen. Because You have installed Zorin Lite and this is based on xfce, you should get a Screen where You can choose what Login Screen You want. GDM3 is the Gnome(Zorin Core) one and xfce uses ... how was this called ... LightDM or so.

And You really typed sudo apt install zorin-os-lite-desktop yes?

If you want change the Login Screen, You can swtich. to do that type in the Terminal:

sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm3