New RAM: check - ZorinOS doesn't recognize it

I gave my laptop more RAM: 32 MB (4x8 MB)
But it seems that ZORIN only recognizes 16MB:

~$ free
gesamt belegt frei gemeinsam Zwischen verfügbar
Speicher: 15978124 1365724 12210436 390924 2401964 13890688
Auslager: 2097148 0 2097148

          total occupied free shared between available

Memory: 15978124 1365724 12210436 390924 2401964 13890688
Outsource: 2097148 0 2097148

Where can I display the RAM in the graphical user interface?

What can I do to make ZorinOS recognize all RAM?

sudo lshw -C memory
[sudo] Passwort für ms:
*-cache:0
Beschreibung: L1 Cache
Physische ID: 2
Steckplatz: L1-Cache
Größe: 32KiB
Kapazität: 32KiB
Fähigkeiten: asynchronous internal write-back instruction
Konfiguration: level=1
*-cache:1
Beschreibung: L2 Cache
Physische ID: 3
Steckplatz: L2-Cache
Größe: 256KiB
Kapazität: 256KiB
Fähigkeiten: asynchronous internal write-back unified
Konfiguration: level=2
*-cache:2
Beschreibung: L3 Cache
Physische ID: 4
Steckplatz: L3-Cache
Größe: 3MiB
Kapazität: 3MiB
Fähigkeiten: asynchronous internal write-back unified
Konfiguration: level=3
*-cache
Beschreibung: L1 Cache
Physische ID: 1
Steckplatz: L1-Cache
Größe: 32KiB
Kapazität: 32KiB
Fähigkeiten: asynchronous internal write-back data
Konfiguration: level=1
*-memory
Beschreibung: Systemspeicher
Physische ID: 5
Steckplatz: Systemplatine oder Hauptplatine
Größe: 16GiB
*-bank:0
Beschreibung: SODIMM DDR3 Synchron 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
Produkt: CT102464BF160B.M16
Hersteller: Conexant (Rockwell)
Physische ID: 0
Seriennummer: E54CF05C
Steckplatz: ChannelA-DIMM0
Größe: 8GiB
Breite: 64 bits
Takt: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
*-bank:1
Beschreibung: DIMMProject-Id-Version: lshwReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: FULL NAME EMAIL@ADDRESSPO-Revision-Date: 2012-05-30 08:16+0000Last-Translator: Hendrik Knackstedt Language-Team: German de@li.orgMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2022-08-18 12:16+0000X-Generator: Launchpad (build 87919ae1fbf1142b0e02b80650e6ccf3e775beb3) [leer]
Physische ID: 1
Steckplatz: ChannelA-DIMM1
*-bank:2
Beschreibung: SODIMM DDR3 Synchron 1600 MHz (0,6 ns)
Produkt: CT102464BF160B.M16
Hersteller: Conexant (Rockwell)
Physische ID: 2
Seriennummer: E54CF05C
Steckplatz: ChannelB-DIMM0
Größe: 8GiB
Breite: 64 bits
Takt: 1600MHz (0.6ns)
*-bank:3
Beschreibung: DIMMProject-Id-Version: lshwReport-Msgid-Bugs-To: FULL NAME EMAIL@ADDRESSPO-Revision-Date: 2012-05-30 08:16+0000Last-Translator: Hendrik Knackstedt Language-Team: German de@li.orgMIME-Version: 1.0Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bitX-Launchpad-Export-Date: 2022-08-18 12:16+0000X-Generator: Launchpad (build 87919ae1fbf1142b0e02b80650e6ccf3e775beb3) [leer]
Physische ID: 3
Steckplatz: ChannelB-DIMM1
*-firmware
Beschreibung: BIOS
Hersteller: LENOVO
Physische ID: 42
Version: GNET72WW (2.20 )
date: 02/26/2015
Größe: 128KiB
Kapazität: 12MiB
Fähigkeiten: pci pnp upgrade shadowing cdboot bootselect acpi usb biosbootspecification uefi

Reseat the RAM and run MemTest from the Grub Menu.

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I have now replaced the RAM bars one after the other and inserted them one after the other.

Two of the bars were not recognized. In one of them, the computer didn't boot up at all, but kept switching itself (and the fan) on and off.

I will exchange both of them.

Yes, I had a similar situation on a computer that runs Windows. In fact, any reboot would cause the boot to fail with the RAM inserted.
The process became that the computer had to be completely shut down and the new RAM removed - then booted, then shut down and immediately insert the RAM and boot - then it would work. It was a major pain. And MS loves to take it upon itself to run updates, then auto-reboot the computer, which caused that computer to not be able to boot back up without the whole RAM Fiasco.

Windows doesn't work for me, I don't see any reason for it. ZorinOS runs fine on older computers...

Although: I'm thinking about buying a used M1 Macmini with 16GB if the prices fall a little. They should be really fast for hard disk recording.
And then the (few) software that I need and previously didn't like under WINE also runs. At the moment it's actually just the software for my BOSS Katana MK II - although maybe that will work with the new WINE 8.1 that I now have on it. Try it out now...

Did you match the RAM speed of the new stick(s) with the old one(s)? I see 1600MHz in there; just wondering. That could be a factor - a speed that your motherboard doesn't support, either too fast / slow..

Can you see the new ones in BIOS? :thinking:

There shouldn't be any 'say' with how much RAM you can use by the OS; that's normally with your hardware limits, like your motherboard spec. Do like the idea of re-seating the new RAM sticks. Could also use a (clean) pencil eraser to clean off the contacts on the sticks. And maybe even a few shots of canned air / compressed air in the previously unused RAM slots themselves; could have gotten some dust build up in there while not being used.

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At the moment two of the 4 new RAM modules are in there. I'm almost sure that these will fit the computer.
Lenovo Thinkpad W541 Intel® Core™ i5-4340M CPU @ 2.90GHz × 4

https://thinkwiki.de/W541

I can use the old one and see what is displayed there.

What size are the modules for each stick? I see on the spec sheet, 16GB RAM limit on dual-core CPU's, 32GB RAM limit on quad-core CPU's, and a cap for single sticks across the board - can't use single 16GB RAM modules with any of the dual-core or quad-core CPU's.

Also, from your CPU spec, the i5-4340M is a dual-core, so 16GB is the cap for RAM size. You may only have two 8GB sticks totaling 16GB; which is the max for the CPU / mobo combo.

8 MB Modules.

No, it is a quart-Core

Okay - I think that's the issue, your CPU doesn't support having 32GB of RAM:

Screenshot from 2023-11-25 02-58-21

According to the spec sheet, you have a dual-core CPU, the 4340M.

So, it's not the memory chips and slots. I tried both combinations:
No matter which of the two opposite places I fill, it works with 2x 8MB.
If I then add 2x8 MB to it, the computer no longer starts up.

That's strange, because after inserting the memory for the first time, it booted up, even if it only recognized 16 MB. has. I have to look into this again...

It is as I described it. No new findings.

Maximum Capacity : 32 GB
Number Of Devices : 4


Kapazität : 8192 MB
Typ : DDR3
Speed : 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer : Hynix/Hyundai
Form Factor : SODIMM
Locator : ChannelA-DIMM0
Bank Locator : BANK 0


Kapazität : No Module Installed
Typ : Unknown
Speed : Unknown
Manufacturer : Not Specified
Form Factor : DIMM
Locator : ChannelA-DIMM1
Bank Locator : BANK 1


Kapazität : No Module Installed
Typ : Unknown
Speed : Unknown
Manufacturer : Not Specified
Form Factor : DIMM
Locator : ChannelB-DIMM0
Bank Locator : BANK 2


Kapazität : 8192 MB
Typ : DDR3
Speed : 1600 MT/s
Manufacturer : 1315
Form Factor : SODIMM
Locator : ChannelB-DIMM1
Bank Locator : BANK 3

Well, that's quite misleading from the specs on Lenovo's site :thinking: odd..

I do see there are two SODIMM slots, then two DIMM slots.. are the new sticks SODIMM or DIMM? That's also a little odd.. From the output it looks as if there are two different form factors for RAM...

Try using just one or the other new sticks to test - if one yields a boot and one doesn't, the stick may be bad; which is possible but, hopefully not. But, that's one way to test. I have one stick like that myself - just can't use it. But, they were handed down so, I'm sure they served their purpose.

I have now found out:

Although the computer has 4 RAM slots, the built-in Intel processor only supports 16GB.

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