People who come from Windows, what pushed you into finally switching to linux?

As someone who certified in IT there is not a chance in heck I am relying on MS Defender.

But if you use a quality antivirus your odds of issues on Windows are not super high unless you do something dumb

That is very surprising... but I'm sure you must have known people who did have this problem.

And these days I'm also much more careful with what I click on or download. That is probably another reason Linux has less malware, simply because more technically oriented people are less inclined to download seemingly useless stuff, or simply are more aware of the risks (like checksums after downloading for example).

I personally believe the only real reason Linux has less of these problems is because far less people are trying to break in. There are countless companies looking into the security of Windows. I just do not see anyway that the Linux companies are out doing them

In terminal please run:

killall gnome-software

snap refresh


sudo snap refresh

Brief notes: I relied on the terminal because it is more time efficient for me. It is two commands easily pasted in. You can perform the same in GUI by opening System Monitor to kill the Gnome Software Store Process.
I included one command with sudo and one without because I cannot remember off the top of my head if Snap requires elevating to SuperUser to refresh. I remove Snapd first thing when I install Zorin OS on my machine.:wink:

Oh, I don't know. Having to reinitialize a piece of software, reboot, unplug and plug something back in on Windows is just as common. It's just computing.

That is why this forum is here. When computing, it helps to have somewhere to turn to in case things don't go right. Dual Booting users that have Windows post here to solve some Windows issues from time to time, too. That's what community is for.

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When did you last familiarise yourself with the key components and functionalities gathered under the collective 'Defender' brand? It's come on a way since its launch in 2006.

Is your opinion based on an up-to-date evaluation of its functionality? I detect a bit of anti-MS prejudice here. Am I wrong?

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Have not messed with Windows 11 much at all. But it is pretty well known that Windows Defender is pretty meh.

I strongly advise using AVG, Avira, etc.

To be clear you will probably be ok with Defender but there are better options

Thanks, Aravisian. I wasn't expecting an actual answer here! :slight_smile:

By the way, it didn't work (I tried both methods, sudo and non-sudo). It tells me "All snaps up to date", but the updater for Morgen still won't run.

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Ah! The famous "it is pretty well known....." That proves it then - I'm glad you used such an impeccable source. :smile:

In all seriousness, Defender is clearly just fine for lots of people. I haven't heard anyone in my circle of acquaintances getting malwared in a few years now. In sharp contrast with its performance back in the day, when it was pretty hopeless.


Things have changed over the years:

As stated earlier, in the past, most experts would advise you not to rely on MS Windows’ built-in antivirus due to its unreliability.

However, that is no longer the case since 2019.

Before now, Windows users would usually deactivate Windows Defender and install other third-party antivirus programs. Things have significantly turned around.

In 2020, Microsoft Defender was voted one of the best antivirus applications. AV-Test, an independent testing lab, conducted thorough testing in May-June 2020. Windows Defender got a 6.0/6 score in the AV-Test report, which is incredible.

Just a note:
Windows vs Linux Security is an interesting topic.
There is much that can be exchanged in the way of ideas.

Starting a new topic to cover it may be worthwhile. It currently is a tangent in this thread but at its current progress, may be difficult to separate out since it started from a user pointing out it was a reason that they had for switching.
To this end:

Please post Security related responses in the new thread so we can keep this one reasonably on topic.

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Yes, sorry, that bit of topic drift was my fault. Best to keep the threads separate.

windows is the best operating system for me, but what make me to switch to Linux is : windows10 and windows11 aren't suitable for old pc. it's consuming a lot of recourses, and Microsoft force u to use modern power pc, i think Microsoft should produce windows lite, i don't know why they didn't do that until now, Microsoft should return support windows 7.


Windows is actually pretty darn efficient already to the point that I would call it unnecessary.

Still is an untapped market for them for sure. Luckily there are several Linux Distros that will suit this need.

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They actually do... it is just not well known or advertised. But for a long time was used on lower spec machines. Since they came preinstalled, no one knew that was what they got.

There is also a better known Windows Tablet Edition; which comes preinstalled on Tablet PC's (Not Android Tablets, that is a different product).

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Are you referring to Windows Starter?

No, that is a different stripped down version of Windows.

Can you link to what you are referring to? Can not say I am remembering it off the top of my head.

No... lol
I am not even aware of it having a name other than whatever internal name was used by MS.
This is kind of what I mean about MS control. You couldn't look it up and download it - Let's say you are on a lower spec machine (this includes an indentifier supplied by the manufacturer) and you need to do a wipe and reload of Windows.
If you use disk, the disk runs a program that checks your hardware, then installs the version of Windows that is suited to performance on that machine. If you run the Online Installer, then it does the same, without needing to ignore bits from the full install.
I worked with this when managing ghost drives for a company (that I won't publicly name) as when there were enough issues with the machine, we just wiped and reloaded from the ghost image.
But this is how the MS Windows installer works. It is not a separate Product you could download and buy.

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There were many versions for embedded and low resources machines... but companies paid a premium for less. I've seen it on forklifts with mounted rf computers, handheld devices and POSs that couldn't handle the full os. I vaguely remember windows ce, but there were other designations as well.

Anyone looking to change OSs can't go by first appearance. When the newest version of windows was forced on you, did you not complain and then go through the process of configuring theme, settings, wallpaper, lock screen and anything else you customized?

Do the same here in Linux. If you expect it to be what you want OOB, and not like it when it's not, you're not giving it a fair chance.

The great part of Linux is, if you installed Zorin Core and don't like the visuals, you don't have to install another distro. Install XFCE, LXDE, Plasma or Neon, or any of the other DEs that are available (mate, Budgie...).

The distro you choose will be important, because that is where the optimizations specific to that distro are. You could do much worse than Zorin which is one of the most responsive distros. Pop is right up there to.

You will be happier if you at least act like you're going to stay instead of looking at it and saying, "but it's not what I'm used to... it's not windows without M$". It may overwhelm you with all of the choices available on Linux. Try what appeals to you. Get everything working and explore, then make a decision.


I am impressive how many type desktop enviroments you can get.
The one lesson is using the one what is your favorite.
Installation many desktop enviroments on one linux distribution can hurt your operating system Zorin.
I have some experiences with that.