I agree on this. It is a large part why I continue with Zorin OS. As Zorin OS Lite offers XFCE, it works out for me.
I do not find having direct access to all my settings to be messy, at all. And the apps being hidden or unavailable is not "professional" in how something looks, in my opinion.
To me, a Professional Look, looks like something that can be Professionally used. And Android and Gnome do not fit that bill in anyway. A Mobile Application platform can never operate as a Desktop Workstation.
Android functionality is fine for when bored sitting on the city bus.
But you cannot run professional Applications on it; inkscape or Blender or any other in-depth professional software.
A desktop Workstation needs the tools laid out and in easy reach - not minimlistic with the user having to dredge each one out just to make use of ti.
Exactly. Yes. If Gnome suits you and XFCE suits me (Or Cinnamon), then that is the great Diversity of Linux. My comments above were addressed at Gnomes attempts to Squash that Diversity. Not to your choices of preferences.
And - I apologize... Reading over my wording; I did not properly express that.
If Gnome respected Other Desktops, I would be very supportive of Gnome, even if it is not My Own Taste. After-all, having different tastes and the ability to build our workstations by them IS the thing I promote.
It is that Gnome controls the Gnu ToolKit (GTK) which does affect XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon and other desktops and removes functionality from the Toolkit, turning all other desktops into having No Choice but to become "little Gnomes" that I take exception to.
Take that action out of the equation and it changes my entire attitude completely and I would be strongly supportive of Gnome.
Thanks for wording that in a way that made me critically examine how I just expressed myself, because it's plain to see I did so poorly.
No need to apologize, you explained/expressed it very well thank you. I'm glad asking you the question, got a lot more information and still learning more about Linux and desktops.
this may be due to certain conky script language being deprecated. In (Zorin 15) Ubuntu 18.04, conky automatically corrected for this. But in Ubuntu 20.04, this support was dropped.
Try formatting your Background image with ${image ./(image-name).png -p 0,0 -s (x-px-size)x(y-px-size)}
For example, one of my own that the image is named e on, uses ${image ./ef.png -p 0,0 -s 305x858}.
Close to your suggestion but I don't like the windowsbar on top (thats why I use window_hints) and the color settings you mention leave an foggy impression, so I left them to zero.
Interesting... I wonder if this is a difference between Gnome and XFCE. I have the opposite effect - with your settings, it makes a conky look translucent or foggy. And the type set to Desktop on XFCE would give it window borders.
So, it must be set to Normal.
Since I've installed Zorin16 I've tried al the options: normal, desktop, dock, panel or override - still no good result.
Perhaps it's like you mentioned:
" this may be due to certain conky script language being deprecated. In (Zorin 15) Ubuntu 18.04, conky automatically corrected for this. But in Ubuntu 20.04, this support was dropped."
I've also tried it with other ubuntu (20.04) derivatives and those produce a black background even worse than Zorin16.
No sweat, thank u for the good effort, conky is still running correct and luckily the pictures are still visible.
Can you open the Conky Manager/ click on the Conky you are using, then click on the Settings Icon on the top toolbar.
A popup window will open titled "Edit Widget."
There is a Transparency tab.
You may explore the Settings Manager and see if any of that makes a difference.
Just tried what u suggested, using all settings
Opaque, Transparent, Pseudo-Transparent and Semi-Transparent... still the same result transparent pics.
I forgot to mention, your first desktop picture is what inspired me to learn how to make my desktop look cool. I just installed zorin a few days ago, and its my first time ever trying out linux.