The Buzz around Mozilla's New Terms of Use

I'll be honest, I've never heard of this site. I went to it, and I don't understand where I can find videos immediately. There's "platforms" that have videos in them, but then some videos I find are just links to youtube. Very confusing to me.

Yeah, it's not very well known and I can't say I'm surprised. The intention is good but most people creating content only do so for profit anyway, so there's very little incentive for viewers and content creators to spend time improving the UI.
Which is itself another reason to promote content other than YouTube. We need more funding for other platforms like this one (doesn't have to be decentralized).

I no longer use it through the site directly but through NewPipe, over the app, since you can subscribe to channels and they appear on the feed in a unified interface. So it's much more convenient.

Just to note - this YouTuber throws up so many red flags for certain personality disorders.... I would advise extreme caution when viewing the channel content. Excuse my short reply (cursed 2/3 keyboard).

Extreme caution? Well, that's a little too strong if you ask me. I'd be more careful about the ones that are capable of putting up a front whenever there's a camera pointed at them...

I'm not saying that you should move in with him, either :joy: But I try to stay focused on the content, not who's making it.

The Problem with that is: The one who makes the Content affects the Content.

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True that. There are plenty of videos that I can't bear to watch when they start inserting all sorts of annoying random clips from other videos, sound effects, etc. every few seconds. Unfortunately, YouTube seems to reward that type of content...

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This is why I don't watch any videos from GenZ, and only a few videos from Millenials. I get so sick and tired of the, " wapish, its your boy bla, smash that like button, lets try to get to bla subscribers." More wapish sound effects.

I have a strong distaste for people like JackSepticEye, who are absolutely annoying in every way possible. Even though I like Markiplier, he annoys me to with his childish humor, hes so obviously catering to his base of mostly children.

Very few people on YouTube are actually keeping it real. Most folks just push the algorithm for financial gain. Its mostly content that engages with little children. Less of the content is made for adults, but that is the only content I can stand.

I can only stand people who keep it real. I can sniff a B****r a mile away, and makes me want to say, "oh god, shut. I'm just too old for the modern me me me look what I can do generation. You brought up really great points Zenzen. I totally agree!


Might take a look at Lady Bird listed here:

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I believe Ladybird development is still pre-alpha testing. but agree it's one to watch, as will offer a new browser engine to compete with Chromium, if that is all that is left if FF disappears.

i.e. to quote their website ref https://ladybird.org/: " Ladybird is currently in heavy development. We are targeting a first Alpha release for early adopters in 2026. "

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Late to the discussion, but I think Brave is a solid choice. It's my primary on all my Linux distros (literally the first thing I install). That said, some of its 'default' features can be annoying (Rewards, whatever crypto stuff it's got going on). I think it'd make sense to have a 'lighter' version that has those features turned off by default, plus a user choice at installation for their preferred browser would be a plus.

Days before Mozilla made the new ToU, I helped my mom set up her new phone. Something that I've seen that I've never seen on any previous phone I've set up was what aisajib is suggesting, a list of multiple browsers so we can select the one we want. Even if I chose firefox, chrome was installed as a system app anyway, as usual with any android phone.

But that's not a bad idea: a browser selector that appears on first boot (not on the live media in case someone installs the system for a friend/family member/etc.), but a browser comes installed with the rest of the system in case the user skips the browser selector or doesn't choose anything; and then let's say, the default browser is Brave but the user chose only Librewolf: then the system would install Librewolf and remove Brave

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Been using Firefox for over 20 years. Which ones are good alternatives?

At the risk of repeating myself — I'm starting to feel like I'm shilling for Brave or something :sweat_smile: — all of those features are disabled by default.


Looking forward to having another browser engine entering the arena. Ladybird seems to be spectacularly well funded, to be honest. So that's already a good sign.

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Not necessarily. If I remember correctly, the initial launch walks you through the steps of "enabling" them. It's safe to assume most general users will not care and may just say "yes" to everything. Technically, yes, they are disabled by default, but upon first launch, I always had to say No a few times. That's a blocker/annoyance, however minor.

That may be the case yes. I usually just ignore that kind of stuff on most first run wizards, so that may have something to do with it. I'll give it a try on a VM to see how it looks like

EDIT:

This is on first launch of Brave, pretty standard stuff. Even if one clicks next to everything without looking, it still doesn't enable any of the controversial stuff:

LibreWolf is definitely a good alternative. It comes configured with privacy in mind, so it has things like uBlock Origin already installed. This may trip some less familiar users off as a lot of sites would break unless you disable or tweak with the filters. But it's pretty much the same as Firefox otherwise.

I'm currently using Vivaldi and I have to say that it has indeed improved a lot since the last time I tried it, even though this is a Chromium-based browser.

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Just installed App Image of Zen. Notice it has widevine present for DRM. Will test at some point this week. I should add this was on Q4OS. Need to also install it on PCLOS Debian.

I've been running Zen as my main browser since the Mozilla thing. It took a while to get used to vertical tabs, but I am now really liking it. I have more screenspace for the actual content than in FF.

I love the workspaces feature, I've set up a workspace for several; different clients work, so thats all I see while working on that client.

And, I love the pinned tabs at the top of the sidebar for the few things you use all the time.

The split-view ability has also come in handy a couple of times, which I would previously do by setting up 2 instances side by side.

I know its still in active development, but I haven't noticed any major (and only very few minor) glitches.

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Was surprised they still have Google search engine by default. I removed X and Discord tabs and need to remove reddit tab. Certainly no social media baggage for me. Bleh! :wink:
All search engines removed apart from Wikipedia and added Mojeek.

Yes, I removed all the stuff I don't use, I have pinned a few reference sites I use all the time.

I've been using Presearch for some time now. Its European based, and gives good results for me. I didn't find that Brave seach returned such good results, and it was poor when I was looking for more local specific information.

Mojeek didn't work so well for me. Many of my searches are technical information. It used to be I had to go back to Google for those, but with Presearch I haven't had to in this last year at least.

The main thing is that there are some good privacy-based alternatives.

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Thanks for the screenshots. My mind is reminding me that I had to go through some steps to disable some of that stuff, but I can't remember when/where I was prompted. (I thought it was at first run, but apparently not.) I'll keep an eye out the next time I install a new distro. :stuck_out_tongue:

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