Why did they have to ruin Gnome?

Zorin should go back to the old version. Maybe they could update and maintain it. It would give them an edge over other distros and set them apart.

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Just seeing how many issues/glitches GNOME Software throws so often and partial translations don't make me feel it completely reliable. The new version I see on 17.1 isn't much better, the look/layout is cool but still has certain problems with buttons or showing the actual state of downloads/updates, one of the 2 :person_shrugging:.

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I also prefer the gnome version on 16 over the one on 17. Vertical workspaces and applications menu does feel more intuitive to navigate with a vertical mouse wheel... also the right click and other menus had a moderate amount of spacing that felt and looked good. The one on the new version may benefit touchscreens, but I'd say that adding it as a feature that can be enabled for touchscreen users instead of making it like that for desktop users as well would have been a better way to approach this...

I do prefer the new gnome software version: less bugs, more information, slightly more intuitive. But this isn't the gnome software that belongs to the gnome 43 that zorin uses. It's from gnome 45. I wonder if the effort to backport it to the gnome version used on 16 would be much bigger than it was for bringing it to gnome 43?

I personally agree with the suggestion. This is exactly how desktops like cinnamon were made: forking and maintaining an old gnome version and adding their own features to it to make it look and behave like they wanted instead of accepting every change that they may or may not like from mainstream gnome

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When support for v16 ends, I will be tempted to just use Debian or Fedora with Dash to Panel and ArcMenu since I will be stuck with the new Gnome anyway. Never could get comfortable with Plasma and Mint is just too ugly.

PS, I wish somebody would bring back the old Workspace Indicator extension. I just want the number that I can put my cursor on and scroll.

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Debian 12 uses Gnome 43, too. So, if You want a more modern Gnome Version Fedora should be a better Choice.

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I want to keep the OLD version I'm using now, GNOME Shell 3.38.4.

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by the time support for Z16 ends, I don't think any distro that is actively mantained will have a gnome version lower than 40. If you don't like plasma, cinnamon nor newer gnome, you could give a try to other desktops, like xfce, lxqt, mate, unity...

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You'll notice stock Gnome doesn't have real wallpapers, it has graphic designs. This is because it is always zooming and scrolling. And it needs Blur My Shell to get rid of the ugly blank borders.

Honestly, I'll probably use Zorin 16 until next year and then try Deepin.

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Well there is quite a choice of others, PCLinuxOS mainstream has Plasma, MATE, and xfce. Community spins include Trinity (early KDE desktop):

A mainstream distro that uses Trinity, Q4OS:
https://www.q4os.org/

Other PCLinuxOS Community spins include Enlightenment DE and LXQt.

Or take a look at GhostBSD which uses MATE and is similar in style to Gnome2:

(Share your desktop, what does it look like? - #2753 by swarfendor437)

There is also Ubuntu Cinnamon:

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Some people were concerned the difference between Zorin 16 and 17 to be significant with the Gnome upgrade, but I feel that did not happen. There may have been a big loss for those who used extensions extensively, but I can use 17 just as well as I did 16.

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I agree with you
I also like zorin os 16 more than zorin os 17 because for zorin os 16 looks better than zorin os 17 also wallpapers of zorin os 16 is alot better than zorin os 17 in my opinion there is a feature that got kinda shrunk is the wallpaper that is changed by the time I know it is still there in zorin os 17 but zorin os 16 has more wallpapers that changes by the time that is why I like zorin os 16 it has another look and feel in my opinion

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I haven't tried it yet myself, but have you heard of Ultramarine? It's Fedora with the Budgie DE* and, supposedly, some more sane defaults than Fedora typically comes with.

*Budgie is the default DE provided in their "Flagship" release, but they also provide downloads with GNOME, Plasma, and Xfce

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Updated to v17.1. I'm using Panel Scroll to switch desktops without all of the zooming. It also doesn't place ugly squares on my taskbar like Workspace Indicator.

I do like the new file-picker with thumbnails and the auto day/nite wallpaper switcher.

Only one bug, with Blur My Shell, the taskbar search box font is invisible in light mode. But I usually use Super key search anyway.

The 6.5 kernel is much newer, not that it matters on my old machines.

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I think one of the biggest bugbears with 17 has been the introduction of Wayland, undoubtedly. A lot of issues experienced by new users have been caused as a direct result of the initial release having the Wayland compositor being the default instead of X11/xorg. However, following a recent post I responded to when I suggested the OP should use the cog at login to change from Wayland to Zorin on xorg, his screenshot showed the reverse, so I can only surmise that this has changed with the release of 17 r2?

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I think that this could be because of the Usage of a Nvidia Card.

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Never had a cog setting swap like that and always used nvidia cards.

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I don't use/have nvidia on my pc's and have just installed zorin core 17.1 r2.
In this case, Wayland is default.
Regarding nvidia I saw this article online, it's just over 2yr old though.

https://linuxiac.com/ubuntu-22-04-switched-back-to-x-org-when-using-the-nvidia-driver/

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weird! In the middle of installing new hard drive on PS4 Pro - the hard drive installed, just the system being a bugbear wanting correct format of usb so backing up some .isos so I can reformat to EX-FAT!

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