Zorin 17.3 Kernel

Hi to all users of Zorin OS!
I cannot use Zorin OS 17.3, because my Hardware is to new!
My machine is a Minisforum EliteMini with AMD Ryzen™ AI 9 HX 370!
In Ubuntu 24.04 with kernel 6.08.5x i had the same problems!
Since Kernel 6.11.x the problems are gone.
My question is: When the 6.11.x Kernel is available for Zorin OS 17.3?

In Ubuntu 24.04, You should now have the 6.11 Kernel. It got an Update to this Kernel.

Because Zorin 17.3 is based on Ubuntu 22.04 it will not get the 6.11 Kernel because Ubuntu doesn't bring the Kernel to Ubuntu 22.04. So, it will stay on the 6.8 Kernel. Later this Year will Zorin 18 be released and this will have the 6.11 Kernel.

You can install the 6.11 kernel on Zorin OS using Mainline tool or TuxInvader or Liqourix.
Or the 6.12 kernel, for that matter.
Edit: Updated existing guide...

This implies you can install and boot or install and access TTY or Grub Menu > Advanced Options > Enable Networking / Drop to root prompt.

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I have heard that newer kernels offer more performance in the gaming department, with more hardware support. I'm currently using zorin with kernel 6.8.0-52-generic without any issues at all. Is updating the kernel worth it when i don't even have issues in the first place?

I like the saying There's no point fixing something that isn't broken in the first place.

But at the same time, i could consider a kernel upgrade if there are more reasons to do so.

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If it is not broken and working, then I would agree that there is no point.

That being said, you ask a very valid question:

Can a later kernel bring improvements even if the current kernel is working fine?
Yes, on occasion.
However, it is not common that a later kernel brings subtle or unnoticed improvements. The kernel primarily focuses on Functionality and Support. If a person is looking for performance improvements when their current kernel is performing well and as expected; there are far better and more effective things to try than the kernel, since the kernel is the least likely to be effective.

Later kernels may bring certain performance improvements if newer hardware includes the introduction of newer drivers or software.

If curious, you can test a later kernel. For personal training or exploration... Just make backups, first and be prepared to reboot and use Advanced Options to boot into the earlier working kernel in case the later kernel has a regression.

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I very much subscribe to this theory as well. Personally you may see some improvements in performance with newer kernels, but for me the difference has always been negligible. But then again, I run an all AMD system, so the difference for the ever-loved Nvidia may not be the same.

For example, I went from the 6.8 kernel to the liquorix kernel (which is now 6.13? I think). The difference for me? The fact that I can say I'm on the liquorix kernel now, while eating a piece of liquorice. And I've got new hardware (7800x3d and a 7900xtx).

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6.13 had some significant improvements for CPUs with AMD's 3d Vcache technology, though as Applecheeks noted, he didn't notice a difference. Use case probably applies. I definitely find my system more responsive feeling running Nobara than Zorin (Nobara is currently on 6.13.8), and another user reported significant improvements as well.

Since most drivers in Linux are in the kernel, this is definitely true. The question is whether or not you need what's in the newer kernel for your hardware.

My current machine is a Ryzen 9 7950x3D (hey forum software, quit turning my x into a multiply sign; I'm typing what I mean to type) with a Nvidia 4090, and as I mentioned above, it "feels" more responsive. My newest machine (currently in repair due to a cooling problem...) is a Ryzen 7 9800x3D with a 5090, and Zorin most Linux ISOs I tried wouldn't even boot to the live environment because neither the kernel nor video drivers provided (Nvidia video drivers are an exception and are not in the kernel) were new enough.

You can use the noparse tags to prevent this. That said, I looked closely at your post and the x is a regular x that matches the font of any other x...

Different fonts available perhaps? 7950x3D vs x3d.
image
In the former case, the x is not aligned with the bottom of the line, and in the latter, it is. The former is substituted when the forum sees numeral-x-numeral.

This is what I am seeing...
font-x

...that is very strange. I assume in the image I posted at least, you can see what I'm talking about.

Yes, in the image - I can see it clearly.
Maybe it is our system fonts at work, rather than the forum software?

Doesn't seem to be. I can see it start as a normal x then swap out when the second numeral is typed. A font shouldn't be aware of that on its own. Firefox could be "helping," but it's not happening on any other site (Discord web interface, Protonmail, Gmail tested).

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6.14 is a nice release as well for amd/intel. Arch is already testing it so it’s a matter of days before it gets released :face_exhaling:

Maybe because it thinks it’s a math ?

I'm sure that's the case, and I would find suggesting the change very convenient--I still haven't figured out how to enter unicode characters in Linux yet. (To be fair, I also haven't tried; I've just used the character map utility.) It's not suggesting though; it's changing it automatically and instantly, with no opportunity to approve/decline or even undo.

Thats's a good idea, i will try in the next days!
Thanks a lot!

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