AMD announced today they will not be making any proprietary drivers any more as all the MESA drivers will work fine on all they make and the MESA drivers are OpenCL already
extra note Gnome is dropping the X11 platform
AMD announced today they will not be making any proprietary drivers any more as all the MESA drivers will work fine on all they make and the MESA drivers are OpenCL already
extra note Gnome is dropping the X11 platform
To be a bit more precise here: In Gnome 50 it is planed to be kicked out.
Fedora has already dropped X11 with its Gnome Workstation. I've never been fond of Fedora even with X11, it just doesn't do it for me, never has.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BWzypViJVQ&t=1597s heres the youtube vid where i found this all out at also lots of goodies in there this is segmented so you can skip to chapters
They will drop it with Fedora 43.
X11 Is No Longer Part of Fedora Workstation 41
For clarity, Fedora will remove the option to manually add X11/xorg - by default they changed it with Workstation 41.
Yes, it is now possible to install X11 when needed but it is not preinstalled. And with Fedora 43 it will disappear completely. Maybe a bit nit picking from myself, hahaha!
so i would assume zorin would keep using X11 but there wouldnt be any new updates?
There would be the Question if the Zorin Team think that Wayland is fine then. I mean, this should be a Topic for Zorin 19. We will see how Wayland will perform then.
Because of Updates: The most Stuff from Xorg is as far as I heard Stuff for XWayland Compatibility and some minor Stuff for Bugfixes and Security. So, when the Stuff would run natively in Wayland, it wouldn't be neccessary anymore. BUT there ist the Point if Wayland will run and perform well and how Applications, Drivers and Desktop Environments will support it.
interesting..i currently have zorin configured to only use x11 i did try wayland but vid didnt work(NVIDIA) so i set the confige file to only boot into zorin with X11...for now. it is possible the manually installed driver 570.144 isnt compatable with wayland tho
It's worth noting that the Wayland experience on Zorin is especially bad. I am not suggesting Wayland is ready, or that distributions should be switching to it. I am only saying that it works VASTLY better on Fedora than it does on Zorin. On Zorin, Wayland is basically unusable for me. I use a Fedora based distribution called Nobara sometimes, and I haven't had Wayland based problems there.
My experience was that if I used the 570 open drivers, they worked. If I used the 570 proprietary drivers, they did not. This applies to Nvidia's direct installer, too--when using that, things worked when I chose the MIT license version, and failed when I chose the proprietary.
Zorin 17 uses for the Core Version Gnome 43. The up-to-date Gnome Version is 48. So, this is 5 Versions behind. And Wayland had made Progress - even with Nvidia. There is something called Explicit Sync what should make a better Wayland Experience with Nvidia.
The Thing with this is: You need it at 2 Sides - the Desktop Environment and the Nvidia Driver. The Nvidia Driver have that since Version 555 included and on Desktops this is in Gnome since Version 46.1 and Plasma 6.1.
That You set it up to only boot in Xorg isn't a Problem. Use what works. When Zorin 18 is out, You can test if it works better for You and if not, You can change that again. We have to wait what Gnome Version Zorin 18 will have. There is no final Info now.
oh i meant to mention since that time i have also upgraded the kernel to 6.12.3
Yeah, I'm using 6.14.9, so in this case newer kernels don't change much.
So you can record your desktop and no issues with video-conferencing/desktop sharing?
That's outside my use-case. However, Nobara's new user tips note that the reason it directs users to Discord Canary (Discord's beta) by default is because it's "the only version of Discord that supports screen capture for streaming/calls." So minimally, Nobara gets video calls via Discord.
In view of Discords poor history I don't touch it now. I only used it to contact the FerenOS Dev. I also prefer Jitsi Meet over any other video conferencing/chat room software.
wow i saw late yesterday that Red Hat is dropping xorg and blocked the Dev who was making a fork of it as well
i hope this OS keeps going i walked away from windows 8 months ago and i like what i saw when i came upon this distro had a few problems to overcome but after that i made this my daily driver. i like it so much i got pro if i have to rebuy that for os 18..i will