Is Zorin more expensive than windows?

Interesting. I thought that wouldn't be of any value to me because it's for a corporate/office environment, and I'm a home user. I spent a whole 5 minutes ( :stuck_out_tongue: ) trying to figure out if anything on the 11 Pro would be worth it for me.

I'm interested in learning more about this. Would you mind sharing some examples? (Links are okay; I don't mean to hijack this thread. :slight_smile: )

I remember I had to use Group Policy Editor to turn off certain nag screens when installing Win 11 Pro 24H2 on youngest's machine. Fortunately didn't have to pay as upgraded from 7 Pro to 10 Pro then 11 Pro.

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This list is for Windows 10 (because I need to get back to work rather than poke around online), but you can find similar tips for Windows 11: https://www.makeuseof.com/tag/12-ways-windows-group-policy-can-make-pc-better/

Highlights include disabling forced restarts, disabling automatic driver updates (usually you want drivers maintained, but if a new driver gives you trouble...), killing OneDrive, etc.

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I've purchased Windows 10 licenses for about $10~$15 in the past, but I don't think this is all that surprising. It's not uncommon for companies with deep pockets to drop prices in order to push competition away. Amazon and Xiaomi are good examples of just that.

If you don't like "huge text", go to the settings in your browser and change the default 100% to something smaller that suits your desires. It's a simple fix.

Make use of the search facility, if you're looking for something specific. It's far easier to search and get good results here than in the Mint forum, for example, where the font is microscopic. It really is simple fix, and I know because my pet hate is what you prefer... "horses for courses". :smile:

@aisajib , check out Chris Titus Tech on YouTube. He's made a number of tutorials on how to "tame windows" and they really do work. I've got Windows 10 down so tight nothing bothers me and it just functions with no telemetry, no unwanted intrusions, it's just exactly how I want it to be... until October. He's made a lot of tutorials about Windows 11 too, but as I refuse to "upgrade" I haven't gone into those.

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Come on now. This is with it at 60%:


This goes beyond font size to the whole design. They've chosen to use massive text and constant images all over in addition to single sentences at normal sizes. I can scale all text down, but their design makes their normal text microscopic if I do.

I don't like to assume someone is trying to be insulting, but I'm having a difficult time reading this any other way. Of course I use the search. That doesn't change the page design going out of its way to dedicate very little space to information and very much to headers.

It's cost nothing, you can use and get all for free. Only restriction, whit out paying is few pre build layouts, what general don't change how the system works. It's more about supporting developers of Zorin Os. So buying Pro version is like Donation.

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Ok, I agree, you do have a point. I hadn't thought about those images you posted. They are huge.

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Ever thought about a scam site ? On the MS site this edition is priced way higher.

I trying sayed my observation with balanced things.
i don't sayed Zorin distribution is badly.
I don't sayed the webside Zorin is poor.
For me is more funny Zorin ≠ Windows, what it sayed on blog Zorin.
The same I cannot acceptable with that "Zorin OS is designed to be easy, so you don't need to learn anything to get started. "
I could sayed in my experience when I was begginer in Zorin earlier from version 8 - it could be better sounds "The Zorin linux is for beginners people who want trying more understable how linux working and finding diffrents than windows or macOS configure to the your preferences Desktop Enviroment with huge library software for free" - because linux is open source and safety.
Reading over 10 years the same sentence on blog Zorin it gived me they changing main title body is still the same and everything under dust. Check example Mint distribution when new version out then you have what is changed. I want sayed if you want your product good. I just gived my 2 cents to not intended to harm users or authors.

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So if a tesla gets cheaper all others like volkswagen, peugeot, ford and so on have to drop pice too ? That does not make any sense to me.

It’s true, you don’t need to learn anything to get started. All the important stuff gets installed and you can get to work on the net and so on. In windows you have to install tons of drivers and updates and need to install alot of (payed) applications in order to get to work.

So what ? If it works it works.

I do agree on the last part, a bit of insight on what got changed in the newer version would be great.

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It depends which way or side people taking observation. Everyone who put opinions here can be correct. That mean's no one is wrong.
Every product have some price clothes,food - for some people the price is ok for another people this is to expensive and don't buyed. The choice is your decision.

:+1: Just good that there is the choice avaliable.

As many point out, Zorin OS Pro is a means of supporting development rather than buying a product.

It used to be that Zorin OS Ultimate (later name changed to Pro) was half of what the price is today. You chose at checkout whether to download Pro Gnome or Pro XFCE.
The Zoringroup then changed this to double the price and made the download a bundle of both Core and Lite in the Ultimate (later named Pro) package.

Now that Zoringroup has decided to drop Zorin OS Lite and Lite Pro; will the price get halved?

We do not know the answer to this. Zoringroup remains quiet in this question. But I suspect that it will not.

And that bothers me. The given reason for doubling the price was the bundling of the two editions.

I do not believe that a person giving critical feedback or even a valid complaint should have to fight their way through the fanclub just to be heard.
I do not believe that Zorin OS Pro costs more than Windows. But valid concerns about the pricing exist and cannot be always waved away with a "Well, it is really more of a donation..." Given that the website is a Business Style Sales Pitch.

I firmly believe that it is up to the ZorinGroup to reply to Critical Feedback and the Hard Questions; Not for the members here to invent a defense of the ZorinGroups choices.
The ZorinGroup need to release statements to Valid Feedback on their own.

This is what they do full time. Yet, Elive, with one single developer and which has a stable and a rolling release, has a much faster release cycle than Zorin OS does.
Slax, Slitaz, Void Linux distros are all on a faster release cycle and also one single developer (Void accepts outside help). Granted, these are often Niche distros.
Sam is very active on open communication with the base users for Elive. Tomáš maintains personal open communication to all feedback and also has a fast paced development blog for Slax.

Yes, some people will ask about the next Zorin OS edition release date a week after the most recent release. This happens.
But so, too, we cannot ignore the lack of communication to release dates from the Zoringroup. Many people ask in a timely and reasonable manner because they are trying to plan for offices, classrooms and homes. And while helpful members can guess a response on the Zoringroup's behalf, this is not very helpful to those trying to plan out their installations or those who need to keep up with their hardware.
And us giving excuses instead of providing answers enables this trend.

Many questions go unanswered. And many that do, weeks can pass before that answer is given. And we guess far too often.

Valuable feedback needs a response, not a defense.

@Omnimaxus, @Locklear93 and @Bourne are not afraid to ask the hard questions and I, for one, stand with them.

Zorin OS is Free Cost with Pro being a choice. But the pricing of Pro deserves scrutiny. How it is marketed deserves fair examination.
It is much less costly than Windows OS. But most Windows OS users have had the cost of Windows bundled into the computer they bought - they never actually paid a check to Microsoft. To them, it often felt like it was free. I never once bought a copy of Windows OS, myself.

Zorin OS is a good, solid and stable Operating System and a great alternative to Windows OS. But it has room for many refinements and improvements. User feedback is key to those improvements and we cannot explain them all away.

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Thank you, @Aravisian.

Let me start by saying that I agree with your overall point. The Zorin group could do better in terms of communication, and anyone can scrutinize the pricing for the Zorin Pro. The response this post got was partly due to the comparison between Zorin Pro and Windows. If it were just about the Zorin Pro's pricing, the conversation would have gone in a different direction.

If the point is Windows "feels" free (it's not; most people pay for it via the price for the laptop; DIY PC builders pay for a license, and the overwhelming majority of users use a pirated copy), then Zorin OS is also free. No one's forcing anyone to buy Pro anymore than Microsoft is forcing anyone to buy Pro. (They are not.)

It all came down to the comparison between Zorin Pro and Windows.

It's a bit disappointing to see that the responses are seen as fanclub defense. I would have responded in the same way if the comparison was between Windows and any other paid Linux distribution (not sure what else is out there). But I guess it shows even a little bit why open-source projects struggle as soon as money is involved. :slight_smile:

I will take a step back from this thread. Hopefully, the Zorin brothers will address the points you raised about pricing.

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Nobara's also a one man show. Glorious Eggroll (same guy behind GE-Proton), Thomas Crider, handles it alone, releasing a version every time Fedora does (admittedly, one or more months behind them).

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Not at all. I myself pointed out that Windows pricing is higher than Zorin OS - in different posts.
However, across the forum as a whole, whether from new or veteran members; critical feedback is often responded to very defensively and I miss no opportunity to remind members to hold themselves accountable.
I think it is very important to do so. For one, we must resist elitism.
For two, we must be willing to hold a high standard.

I did not know that this one was.

TIL...

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I am a fan of proton-ge but i did not know he created nobara…will do some research on his os. Thanks for this info!