New kernel 38 won't let startup my computer

btrfs + timeshift autosnap feature is a good approach for worry free upgrades but still not applicable/confirmed to Zorin OS (or any Ubuntu/Debian based distros) - Found a solution:

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I'll make sure to do a Timeshift before I update then. But I'll do it tomorrow.

I've had it searched but there are no updates to the nvidia driver at the moment

Probably the new nvidia drivers are the problem here as I have additional versions not currently installed on my machine:

N: There is 1 additional version. Please use the '-a' switch to see it
➤ apt list --upgradable -a
Listing... Done
linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-updates 5.11.0-38.42~20.04.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.11.0-37.41~20.04.2]
linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-security,now 5.11.0-37.41~20.04.2 amd64 [installed,upgradable to: 5.11.0-38.42~20.04.1]

Yes they are there, how can i upgrade?

I had that as well, but it didn't make my system unusable. Besides, it's a multiple version causing the conflict. You may not be able to do that one from the terminal? What am i saying!

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Okay, me and English are not very good at translating.
At the moment I don't really know what to do.

When I upgrade the nvidia drivers are withheld

From apt-get manual:

upgrade
   upgrade is used to install the newest versions of all packages
   currently installed on the system from the sources enumerated in
   /etc/apt/sources.list. Packages currently installed with new
   versions available are retrieved and upgraded; under no
   circumstances are currently installed packages removed, or packages
   not already installed retrieved and installed. New versions of
   currently installed packages that cannot be upgraded without
   changing the install status of another package will be left at
   their current version. An update must be performed first so that
   apt-get knows that new versions of packages are available.

dist-upgrade
   dist-upgrade in addition to performing the function of upgrade,
   also intelligently handles changing dependencies with new versions
   of packages; apt-get has a "smart" conflict resolution system, and
   it will attempt to upgrade the most important packages at the
   expense of less important ones if necessary. So, dist-upgrade
   command may remove some packages. The /etc/apt/sources.list file
   contains a list of locations from which to retrieve desired package
   files. See also apt_preferences(5) for a mechanism for overriding
   the general settings for individual packages.
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That is something i already know very good thanks.
I did it both but no result.
I can't install the new driver upgrade.

the Nvidia packages have been withheld while doing the upgrade

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Here is what happens:

➤ apt list --upgradable
Listing... Done
linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04/focal-updates 5.11.0-38.42~20.04.1 amd64 [upgradable from: 5.11.0-37.41~20.04.2]
➤ sudo apt upgrade linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
Calculating upgrade... Done
Some packages could not be installed. This may mean that you have
requested an impossible situation or if you are using the unstable
distribution that some required packages have not yet been created
or been moved out of Incoming.
The following information may help to resolve the situation:

The following packages have unmet dependencies:
linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04 : Depends: linux-modules-nvidia-470-5.11.0-38-generic (= 5.11.0-38.42~20.04.1) but it is not going to be installed
Depends: nvidia-kernel-common-470 (>= 470.74) but 470.63.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 is to be installed
E: Broken packages

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That is exactly the same by me:

hendrik@hoofdcomputer:~$ sudo apt upgrade linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04
Pakketlijsten worden ingelezen... Klaar
Boom van vereisten wordt opgebouwd
De statusinformatie wordt gelezen... Klaar
Opwaardering wordt doorgerekend... Klaar
Sommige pakketten konden niet geïnstalleerd worden. Dit kan betekenen
dat u om een onmogelijke situatie gevraagd heeft, of, indien u
de distributie 'unstable' gebruikt, dat sommige benodigde pakketten nog gemaakt moeten worden of uit 'Incoming' verwijderd werden.
De volgende informatie kan misschien helpen de situatie op te lossen:

De volgende pakketten hebben niet-voldane vereisten:
linux-modules-nvidia-470-generic-hwe-20.04 : Vereisten: linux-modules-nvidia-470-5.11.0-38-generic (= 5.11.0-38.42~20.04.1) maar het zal niet geïnstalleerd worden
Vereisten: nvidia-kernel-common-470 (>= 470.74) maar 470.63.01-0ubuntu0.20.04.2 zal geïnstalleerd worden
nvidia-driver-470 : Vereisten: nvidia-dkms-470 (<= 470.63.01-1)
E: Niet-werkende pakketten
hendrik@hoofdcomputer:~$

However Kernel: 5.11.0-38-generic is installed and booting normally.

Not by me, the computer won't load into Zorin OS 16 Core with the new kernel 38

Here is what I have done:

  • reverted back to nvidia-driver-460
  • rebooted
  • installed again nvidia-driver-470
  • rebooted
    ➤ apt list --upgradable
    Listing... Done
    No available upgrades now
  • or you can stick with nvidia-driver-460 with 470-5.11.0-38-generic kernel until the problem is resolved

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Wow pazoff dude, you're right.
I just did what you did and it works.
I can boot into kernel 38 with driver 470 from Nvidia.
Thank you very much.

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@Zorinhendrik, ik zie dat jij een Nederlander bent. Welkom :D.

Ik gebruik zelf de nvidia drivers van de nvidia site. Misschien een idee om het zelf ook een keer te proberen ? Zorin OS heeft geen dkms standaard geinstalleerd. dkms is ervoor dat als er een nieuwe kernel uitgebracht word dat je nvidia driver als het ware gedetecteerd word, heb je geen dkms geinstalleerd dan moet je telkens de nvidia driver opnieuw installeren. Ik weet niet precies ho e het zit met de drivers die meegeleverd worden maar ik ben zelf wel van de nieuwste nvidia drivers.

Je kan de Pop! OS instructies volgen -> [How-To] Manually install the latest Nvidia driver on Zorin 16 and Pop! OS 21.04

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This has to do with dkms that is not preinstalled with Zorin. When a new kernel gets released you have to reinstall the nvidia driver if dkms is not installed.

If i get a new kernel and upgrade, dkms kicks in so i don't need to reinstall the nvidia driver. dkms also comes preinstalled in Pop! OS and in the past when i used Mint 17 it came preinstalled too. I really wonder why the Zorin brothers did not add this one.

https://i.imgur.com/xFRaGg3.png

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Hence another reason why I say that POP OS is more gaming centric, because that is yet another thing done for you, that you don't even have to worry about. One of those, you don't know its there and helping you things, which makes life all that much sweeter sort of deals lol.

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