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Well we have to wait for @AZorin for a exact date, thought you missed his post above :wink:

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It is not yet March...

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The magic can also happen this month :face_with_peeking_eye:

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Haha. Hopefully it will!

We're planning to release Zorin OS 17.3 later this month. However, there's been a slight change of plan with the kernel version.

We generally make use of Ubuntu's HWE (hardware enablement) kernel versions, which are maintained upstream. This makes sure that the latest security patches are available as quickly as possible, and the kernel version is tested widely to work as well as possible with the rest of the base system to ensure system stability.

After recently contacting the Ubuntu team about kernel updates within the Ubuntu 22.04 release series (which Zorin OS 17 is based on) they mentioned that they won't be upgrading to the Linux 6.11 kernel within this release series. As a result, the kernel in Zorin OS 17 won't get upgraded to a major newer version, but it will continue to get incremental updates and security patches for the 6.8 kernel series until 2027.

We're planning to ship at least version 6.11 of the Linux kernel in Zorin OS 18, which we're aiming to launch in the 2nd half of this year. We just created a new help article that gives more details about our release cadence and plans here: When Will the Next Version of Zorin OS Be Released? - Zorin Help

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Thanks for that article. As you've no doubt noticed, "Next version when?" is an extremely common question here. It's nice to have something to point to.

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To sum up then, "Time ... March(es) on!" (Sorry, I thought this was the Humour thread!) No offences intended, just trying to lighten the mood! (Yes, I've been eating too much cheese again!)

Thank you very much for the update.

Pop! OS 22.04 will get the 6.12 kernel.

But they put it in by themself. That doesn't make Ubuntu.

Zorin can do the same :sweat_smile:

Yes, but then Zorin would have to support the Kernel by themself, too. So, they would have to care about Updates and Stuff.

I donā€™t see a problem here ? They already provide updatesā€¦so what am i missing ?

They stated in January they would use the 6.11 kernel for the 17.3 release. 1 month later they say itā€™s not possible. When people read those messages they will be disappointed and might change distro that does support a higher kernel version. 6.12 or 6.13 had important fixes for amd users. Do you really want to tell those users ā€œsorry not possibleā€ while other distroā€™s can make it happen ?

Also what i also donā€™t get, 6.11 kernel will be shipped in Zorin 18 while 6.12 is LTS.

Linux kernel 6.11 will be another short-lived branch supported for only a few months. It will be succeeded by Linux kernel 6.12, whose merge window has now been officially opened by Linus Torvalds and which should be the next long-term supported (LTS) kernel series due out in mid or late November 2024.

That I can answer in one: The Kernel's in Zorin are coming from Ubuntu. The System takes the Updates that come from Ubuntu. So, Zorin doesn't bring the Kernels. And Ubuntu supports the Kernel's with Updates and Bugfixes by themself even when a Kernel is officially End-of-Live.

The 6.11 Kernel: Yes, that Kernel is released. But on Ubuntu 24.04. Zorin 17 is on Ubuntu 22.04. And so far it looks like Ubuntu doesn't bring the 6.11 Kernel to Ubuntu 22.04. And because of that, we here on Zorin 17 doesn't get the Kernel, too. Zorin 18 will have a newer Base - that will be Ubuntu 24.04. So, then we will have the 6.11 Kernel.

I guess the Zoringroup will need to change their page where they say they use the same kernel as Ubuntu 24.04... :stuck_out_tongue:

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Kernel 6.11 is death by the time Zorin uses that on 24.04. Again 6.11 is not even LTS. 6.12 is!

Yes, they should.

@Michel:
That what You explain is the Support from kernel.org. But Ubuntu itself supports the Kernels further with Updates (Security, Bugfixes, Backport's) - even when they are on kernel.org shown as End-Of-Life; that doesn't come from kernel.org. That makes Ubuntu. And this Support lands here on Zorin, too. It comes from the Ubuntu Repo's.

6.11 is not listed there, at least I canā€™t find it right now.

However i did find the LTS kernels -> listed here. Again 6.11 is not listed as LTS.

My point is, things get promised by the zorin group and later they revert it. Itā€™s like giving a kid some cookies and taking it away.

Kernel 6.8 is a troublesome kernel. My acer notebook whas lagging alot with it. I asked @Aravisian months ago if i could use the kernel from pop os to try it out on zorin, he gaved me the proper commands and voilla i had a lag free system.

I read alot of messages of people with lagging systems. A upgrade to a higher kernel will fix these issues.

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Yes, it is not listed there because it isn't supported anymore from them, but it is still supported from Ubuntu. Ubuntu cares about it.

But when Ubuntu doesn't bring the Kernel in Ubuntu 22.04, the Kernel don't land in Zorin. That is no Zorin Decision, it is an Ubuntu Decision. To expect that the Kernel lands in 22.04, too wasn't a too far away Expectation.

Would the Zorin Team now put by thereown a newer Kernel in the System, they would have to care about it. They would have to test if the System run, if Drivers are work, have to deliver Updates etc.

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Oke so to get things straight now. They rely on the ubuntu kernel and donā€™t add fixes to it ? So the only thing zorin is doing is theming and add some zorin apps to it ? To make it ā€œmore user friendlyā€ ?

If this is the case, why on earth does it take so long to release zorin 18 ?