It actually was an interesting read. But I feel most people for Debian are worried more about their "ethics" than what will make a better product. ZorinGroups goal is to put out the best product possible not necessarily to support the open source community as much as possible and I am totally fine with that. I understand people do not like the rigidness of Canonical sometimes but their contribution to open source software and Linux in general can not be overlooked either.
Ethical Considerations are definitely related to Best possible product...
Googles search is quite useful. Its ethical failures makes its quite useful assets suspect in all our futures.
I disagree, what is good for Canonical/Red Hat etc. is good for Linux in general. Without their support it wouldn’t be where it is.
There's nothing wrong with thinking about what else could be done differently, once a good product is delivered. This is very subjective, but I think projects like Mint are mature and ready enough to commit to Debian. I hope ZorinOS can do the same in the near future.
Mint probably could pull it off because it has a larger set of developers.
The fact they have a Debian edition and openly recommend the Ubuntu version speaks volumes though.
Each project just has to decide what is the best for it. If ZorinGroup decided to move to Debian it more than likely would be the correct move. If they don’t that is the correct move.
For instance I know Vanilla recently decided to switch from Ubuntu to Debian and for their goals and agenda that makes total sense. The rigidity of Canonical is getting in their way.
I confess: I find your perspective interesting.
In general I trust the developers of each Linux distro to make the best decisions for what they are trying to accomplish.
I have nothing against Debian, I just feel from my experience the "user experience" of Debian based distros is not as good as Ubuntu based ones. But if Zorin did switch it may not be the best decision for me personally but I trust they would not do it if it would not accomplish whatever their goal is at the moment.
Ubuntu is everywhere.
Debian it is old but it working mostly without problems.
I saw some people start doing from ubuntu to arch example some Rhino distribution.
The people doing many things and many distributions, where i can taken a headeach pain.
Debian I remember mx linux and jessie 8 version. On Debian somethings to install is a one command.
I remember script to server on github.
On debian are amazing programmers people.
I also wondering a people are tired thousands ubuntu distributions. They want something amazing and simple.
Zorin is like Windows without the bloat, nagging or spying. I'd say it's ideal for most normies, especially if they stay with Chrome.
Most people can sit down at one of my computers and use it. They wouldn't know they weren't on Windows except that it is so clean. Had to use Win10 today and was slightly appalled at the immense amount of crud.
Yes, definitely, I doubt the Zorin developers could do the same even if they wanted to. Not without affecting other areas anyway.
And even Linux Mint I think will have to decide at some point which direction to continue. My understanding is this is a "just in case" experiment to see if they could pull it off should Canonical take a direction that's too uncomfortable for their team to follow.
This is exactly correct. The Debian version is "just in case" Canonical does something that is not compatible with Mint's vision. So they would be more prepared to switch over to Debian as their main platform. But as of now Ubuntu is their "recommended" base
Debian have a huge wikibooks. If using a packages from Zorin, what are compatible and using a Kernel from lfs - then only one thing is desktop, propably xfce. Wondering only if it run with systemd or systeminit?
FYI: Consider this as recent evidence of life at Zorin HQ : Download link request no response - #11 by AZorin
When ever I receive an update in Software & Updates I know they are still alive and kicking in Zorin Home World .....
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