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I don't even know what that means!
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Yes, but KDE adds his own Repo for the Plasma Stuff. I took a look at it because I planed to make an Experiment but I still don't find the right Time to do it.
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You would if you used Pinta. It freezes dialogue boxes in the middle of the screen so you basically can't do anything.
BTW, love Pinta. And unlike any other distro I've tried, it respects Dark Mode in Zorin.
Forgot:
*Sweet Home 3D
It's the only architecture program I ever mastered, tho now have forgotten how to use.
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A new (modal) window opened within an application makes the main window follow it. This, for example, prevents you from seeing the content of the main window that is behind, because the one in front is always in front. If the front one moves, the back one moves with it.
The gnome developers took some time to implement this, and didn't put the editable location bar in nautilus. This is very wrong. 
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A lot of good suggestions here. I am currently running Zorin, and really love it, but I was also a bit annoyed by several of the suggestions you made when it comes to the out-of-the-box experience. There are quite a few things that should really come standard with a base install, such as centering windows, and a number of important applications pre-installed (such as tweaks and others). I also had a few issues with base applications not working as well (such as Steam), so it would be nice to have the apps with known issues preinstalled. I hope the devs are listening.
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I've decided to try Zorin for my Windows-refugee parents for these reasons:
- Stable
- "familiar" UI
- "stable" UI - that is, it seems to look and behave much the same way as it has for a long time. My parents do not want a system that has significant UI changes every year.
- Clean, uncluttered menus and appearance (this is actually what won me over vs Mint).
Whether Gnome or Plasma, if it retains the above principals i think they'll be happy.
fwiw, i'm a Plasma user myself.
Zorin wouldn't work for me, because the updates are too slow/too far behind and Zorin doesn't seem particularly responsive to things like bug reports. I don't even know if we can report them. It's way too far behind on the Gnome for my liking.
I think Zorin maintains a comfortable niche and i don't think it should change dramatically. It's a Linux 'gateway drug' 
. Distrowatch suggests a lot of people at least consider Zorin - it's usually in the top20 (today, it's no.10).
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Here is the Point that Zorin is (and is based on) a LTS Distro. So, there doesn't come new Versions in common, only Updates for Security Issues for Example. To have a common up-to-date System a LTS Distro is not the right Choice - but that isn't the concept of a LTS Distro, too.
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The Zorin is nice with plentyt beautyfull themes.
The Zorin apperance this is they most important things.
This is not diffrents from mint ubuntu or mint lmde.
On mint lmde you can update kernel backport from debian.
Cinnamon is 6.2 updated on Cinnamon.
Zorin is ubuntu Canonical. They don't care what people want to sayed.
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And that is the Difference. Mint Ubuntu and Mint Debian have a stable LTS Base, yes. But they have an up-to-date Desktop because the Developers develop the Cinnamon Desktop, too.
On Zorin, You have the Gnome Desktop as an LTS Format; it isn't up-to-date.
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Yes but after released. I seeing in week many new updates.
In Zorin the updates comes with 17.0 17.1 17.2 17.3 that means updates comes next for months? 12 months / 4 months = 17.1 >17.2 >17.3
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Zorin is not just beauty. Being light is also a very relevant factor.
Which is why, for example, I prefer Zorin to Mint.
For those who need a more up-to-date system, Zorin is definitely not the best option.
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I tried on one from my newer pc and kernel wasn't support good my hardware.
That why i exchanged to another distribution.
Zorin for old pc yes for newer no way.
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Yes, there can come a couple of Updates in a week; that are mostly Security and Bug Fix Updates. And the Point Release are bigger Maintenance Updates. But even there doesn't come greater Updates for the Gnome Desktop. they can't even come, because Zorin 17 uses Gnome 43.9. So, this Gnome Version actually ... done. There are comig only Security Updates, no new Versions or Features.
New Versions and Features can come for the Zorin-own software like Zorin Appearance or the Zorin Extensions. Or the Zorin Team delivers a newer LibreOffice Version.
But that is not the same like on Linux Mint and KDE Neon who delivers a whole up-to-date Desktop Environment.
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I don't know if you've been watching, but there is a lot of chaos happening to people who have upgraded to the latest Mint v22!
I use both distros (Zorin and Mint Cinnamon v21.3), so I'm also on the Mint forum. It is FULL UP with people complaining after upgrading and losing functionality, apps, all kinds of issues.
"Be careful what you wish for!" I certainly will not be upgrading anytime soon - "If it ain't broken don't fix it!".
I run Mint on my ancient HP laptop and Zorin on a slightly newer one with much more space as dual boot with Windows 10. I always held back upgrading to new Windows versions and now I'm doing the same with Mint. Wait until the bugs are ironed out before taking the leap.
Also, I got bitten when an upgrade to a new Mint kernel completely wrecked my OS. I had to do a clean re-install! There was no way back.
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No, I don't know about that. But in general I wouldn't update to a new Main Version too fast because of Bugs and general Issues.
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Well. I am not that others people.
I seeing every week the mint updates.
That mean's they working on new version and fixed them.
It will be more clarify what not working.
It doesn't told me anything.
Wayland yes of course that is not working is experimental if someone is interesting wayland then choice OpenSuse or arch.
With x11 I don't seeing any problems.
Here is also many people put problems about version Zorin 17
Your argument is very poor.
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Hi @Bourne , I'm sorry that you don't agree but that is fine, everyone has their opinions.
I'm on this, Zorin forum, and also on the Mint forum and the fact is that a heck of a lot of people over there are having issues - big ones. I'm not seeing the same problems here at all.
As I always update regularly, I do updates in both Zorin and Mint all the time. Nothing in Zorin has completely broken my OS, but a kernel update in Mint completely broke my operating system resulting in me having to do a complete reinstall and start from scratch all over again.
If you want "bleeding edge" updates and the latest of everything, maybe Arch would be the best distro for you. The great thing about Linux is that we aren't forced to accept things the way the owners and developers decide to do things with their OS. We can and should change to find one that is suitable for our desires.
Comparing Zorin negatively to Mint doesn't achieve anything - they're very different, and that is a good thing. I always post from my personal experience. I'm not arguing anything, just pointing out that new upgrades can - and do often come with lots of problems.
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