OffTopic: A little Kubuntu Short-Trip Anecdote

Hello Ladies and Gentlemen!

I have made a little Kubuntu Short-Trip and because it was ... interesting, I want share my Experience. But don't expect an exciting Marco Polo Travel Report.

Why I did that? Well, I thought, I could try again the Plasma Desktop. KDE Neon isn't the right Thing for me; I tried it in the Past and it was okay but had it's Moments (a bit ironic You will see). So, I thought, I try a bit more stable Way. There would be Debian 13. But because Kubuntu 26.04 uses a bit newer Plasma Version (6.6), I wanted to try that.

So, I looked some YouTube Videos about it and there was a very interesting Information what convinces me: When You make a minimal Install of Kubuntu 26.04 it doesn't installs Snap - I mean don't mean that it doesn't install Snap Program Versions, it doesn't install Snapd itself. I was very wondered about that Step but at the same Time I was thankful. So, I wouldn't have to remove it. It's not very complicated to remove it, yes. But when it is away by default, better.

So, I downloaded it, checked the Checksum, created a Bootstick with Impression and then I went in the Kubuntu Land. The Installer is Calamares, not the Ubuntu Thing. That is not a bad Thing. It might not be the best Installer with the fanciest Design but it does the Job. But that it runs in Full Screen, I don't like at all. So, the whole Scaling and Positioning in the Window was not good in my Opinion but it was ... still usable.

So, I used the minimal Install Option and was excited. The Installation went and at the End ... and Error. Some Packages couldn't be removed. I looked at the Output and was ... irritated. To this, I come in a Minute. Because of the Error, I thought Kubuntu wasn't installed. So, I started the whole Thing again - and I got the Error again.

And now I come to the Details: It seems that there was at the End a Process what wanted remove Packages - the Packages that would be there in a Normal Installation (Firefox, Snap, LibreOffice etc.). But: It couldn't remove the Packages because there weren't installed. I only thought ''Hä?''

I have the Impression because of this that the Installation Process would install everything for the Normal Installation and to fit to the Minimal Install removes at the End the Stuff that isn't needed - but in my Case the Stuff wasn't removable. For whatever Reason.

I wasn't in the best Mood because of that and thought ''Now, I have to undo the Partitions and Boot Stuff''. So, I shutdown, removed the USB Stick and then pressed the Power Button to start the Machine. Now, I had the GRUB Menu of Kubuntu and was a bit irritated because there were the Entries for Kubuntu and it's Options. I thought that it would be Dummy Entries but clicked on them but ... Kubuntu started. It was actually installed - as normal Installation (so with the Software Stack installed).

I was sitting again and thougt ''HÄ?''. I don't had the Effort to play around. So, I started in Zorin, and wanted remove Kubuntu. Removing the Partition with GParted wasn't an Issue. But then came the Boot Stuff. I wanted remove it, too but ... There wasn't a Kubuntu Folder in /ect/boot/efi/EFI. But I understood: It is based on Ubuntu. So, I guessed there isn't an extra Folder for it.

Then I thought ''Use efibootmgr''. So, I used that but that doesn't worked, too. I grabbed my Ventoy Stick and used Boot Repair. And that worked fine. Except for one Thing: Instead of an ''ubuntu'' Entry, I have now a ''Kubuntu'' Entry. But I don't care. It works fine.

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This is an adventure, and more I read, more I don't want to go back to KDE, really not my thing, I tried many DE with Debian base and the worst experience was with KDE...

I have had no issues with PCLOS Debian Plasma .iso based on "bookworm" (Debian 12), or Q4OS excellent rolling release (also based on "bookworm"). I have installed Q4OS since 5.5 and its current rolled release is at 5.9 "Aquarius" running Plasma 5.27. Q4OS 6.6 "Andromeda" is also stable using Plasma 6.3.6.
LMDE 7 with kde-standard (it doesn't come with it, you install via command line or synaptic) is working really well on a client's top end Lenovo. What I have discovered (but I need to double-check this) is kde-standard appears to only have Wayland available. Spectacle works fine for screen-capture but ksnip just crashes. I was also surprised that the touch screen worked well with Wayland on the Lenovo.

I havn't had any problem with KDE in Solus or AerynOS, but in the past I had with ubuntu/debian built system.

It's not about problems I had, it's more than the KDE DE spirit doesn't suit me, but they have great Collection of apps

I wanted to try in specific no Rolling Release. For Rolling Release, I guess, I would had simply went with Fedora KDE. It is not directly at the Edge but on a current Ground.

Yes, Apps like Okular, Kate or Krita are great; I agree. I'm not a Fan of Dolphin or Konsole but there are okay and usable.

But the Plasma Desktop ... I want to like it, I really want. On the Paper it sound really good. You have a lot of Settings and Options to adjust the Desktop - and that in a graphical Way. You don't need the Terminal. Theming is the same. The Options are all there and included.

But when it is about to use it ... I don't like that. I don't like the Usage at all. It is not something in specific - it is the whole Thing. It tried it in the Past, I tried it now and I will surely try it in the Future, too. Because I really want like it. But until now, I simply can't get on the same Way as the Desktop. And I land back again on Gnome.

Thank you for sharing your adventure! I'm glad it was you and not me :rofl:

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For me I have never really taken to Fedora. Just something off and never an LTS. KDE Neon is probably the worst and KDE's own release is garbage as it can't even get screen resolution correct and reducing display resolution to see the desktop clearly leads to a blurred image thanks to Wayland being the only compositor protocol available. The other issue is Pling's pathetic setup when it comes to Global themes throwing errors as they come from their site. Thankfully Devuan, PCLOS Debian and Q4OS will be adopting XLibre.

Screen Resolution (increase/decrease) and Scaling worked well with Wayland for me. Even this weird wabling Window Stuff was running smooth (but an awful Animation Style; I disabled it directly)

The Theming, I didn't tried. But in worst Case, I would download the Theme and put it in the Folder were it belongs. Would be sad when it doesn't work with the built-in Tools but wouldn't be a big Issue for me. The only Thing, I would have to look at is what Folders I would need to use with Plasma.

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Okular helped me a lot with a tabbed file viewer as well its annotation options. I lvoe Dolphin. (Like I mentioned here: KDE/Qt Apps File Picker Problem)
Just like you, I also don't like the UI of it, maybe a good theme with dock + top panel is what's missing.

Thank you for sharing your adventure!
I often try out other distributions on the website Testen Sie Linux-Distributionen online - DistroSea. Every time I do, I realize just how much I appreciate Zorin. I’m so used to Zorin that no other system is currently an option for me.

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That's what I do when setting up my KDE, I don't understand why you people don't do that (those who complain). Install Layan theme and its kvantum theme, and you are rolling :).

I even mimic Gnome's Show Apps

I'll happily help people tweaking their KDE if needed.

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Yes, You can set it up - and that is a good Point, no doubt about that. I don't know how it is called but this Mode when You work on the Taskbar where You have all these Options for making it floating, the Size and the Behavior at all with all these Options.

There is everything You need to set it up, yes. But I don't like the Interface at all. It is not my Cup of Tea. I find it awful. Of Course, this is only one example. Another one: the Settings Menu. I mean, You can say that is is the same what You have on Gnome. A Window, where on the left Side are the Settings Options and when You click on one You have on the right Side the Options to set it up. So, all is fine, right? No. Even when the Layout is the same, I don't like how it is built up.

But to not understand me wrong here: These are only my personal Issues with that. I don't say that it is a bad Desktop. So, these are only subjetive Points from me and not a neutral, objective View on it.

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Oh yes, I use Kvantum theme like I mentioned here so that all qt apps look okay. Hidden folders/files must be different color (or transparent) - #39 by sglbl

You can also try Big Linux KDE on DistroSea Test Big Linux online
Instead of kde's default breeze theme, they include really modern looking theme with a lot of extra option. It's KDE so you don't need to install extensions for everything unlike GNOME. It has a dock and top panel and so many free desktop layouts and it's completely free.

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@Ponce-De-Leon have you tried it? I feel like it has UI of GNOME and UX of KDE so I believe it's a good combo.

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I just took a look at Big Linux. It offers interesting features such as the option to easy install different kernel and Mesa versions, as well as the Big Linux settings and the option to restore settings.

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No. It uses now Manjaro as Base if I understand it right. So, that isn't my Cup of Tea.